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17:th-Apr-2014, 16:34:36 (This post was last modified: 8:th-Apr-2015, 13:58:43 by Rusty2009.)
Heated Seats Description and Operation
Heated Seat Components
The driver and passenger heated seats consist of the following components:
• Left heated seat switch
• Right heated seat switch
• HVAC control
• Seat heating control module
• Driver seat cushion heating element
• Driver seat backrest heating element
• Driver seat cushion temperature sensor
• Passenger seat cushion heating element
• Passenger seat backrest heating element
• Passenger seat cushion temperature sensor
Power and Ground
Battery positive voltage is supplied at all times to the seat heating control module through a 30 A fuse located in the underbonnet fuse block. This voltage is used by the module to supply power to the seat heating elements. Ground for the module is provided at G307.
Heated Seat Operation
The driver and passenger heated seats are controlled by a single seat heating control module that is located under the driver seat cushion. Both heated seats are controlled by separate heated seat switches that are located in the HVAC control. When a heated seat switch is pressed, a serial data message is sent from the HVAC control to the HVAC control module indicating the heated seat command. The HVAC control module serves as a gateway to transmit the message to the heated seat control module via the serial data line. In response to this signal, the seat heating control module applies battery positive voltage through the element supply voltage circuit to the appropriate seat heating elements. The seat heating control module then sends a serial data message back to the HVAC control module to gateway the information to the HVAC control to either illuminate or turn off the appropriate temperature indicator.
Temperature Regulation
When the engine is ON, the heated seats will initialise in the OFF state. With each activation of the heated seat switch, the seat heating control module will cycle the temperature setting in the following manner: HIGH, MEDIUM, LOW, and OFF.
The seat heating control module monitors the seat temperature through the temperature sensor signal circuit and the temperature sensor (thermistor) that is located in the seat cushion. The temperature sensor is a variable resistor, it's resistance changes as the temperature of the seat changes. When the temperature sensor resistance indicates to the seat heating control module that the seat has reached the desired temperature, the module opens the ground path of the seat heating elements through the heated seat element control circuit. The module will then cycle the element control circuit open and closed in order to maintain the desired temperature.
Load Management
The electrical power management function is designed to monitor the vehicle electrical load and determine when the battery is potentially in a high discharge condition. The heated seat system is one of the vehicle loads that is subject to reduction during a battery discharge condition. For more information on load management refer to Electrical Power Management Description and Operation.
17:th-Apr-2014, 16:38:58 (This post was last modified: 3:rd-Apr-2022, 11:17:10 by Rusty2009.)
Front Seat Heater Control Module Replacement
Preliminary Procedures
Disconnect the battery negative cable. Refer to Battery Negative Cable Disconnection and Connection.
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[TD]Component Name[/TD]
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[TD]Front Seat Heater Control Module Fastener (Qty: 2) Caution: Refer to Fastener Caution[/COLOR] in the Preface section. Procedure
1. Move the front seat full backward.
2. Move the front seat in upper position.
3. Disconnect wiring harness connectors.
4. For programming and setup, refer to Control Module References.
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[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Front Seat Heater Control Module[/TD]
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17:th-Apr-2014, 16:46:00 (This post was last modified: 3:rd-Apr-2022, 11:18:31 by Rusty2009.)
Symptoms - Seat Heating and Cooling
Note: The following steps must be completed before using the symptom tables.
1. When diagnosing a heated seat system condition perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle , before using the symptom tables in order to verify that all of the following are true:
• There are no DTCs set.
• The control module(s) can communicate via the serial data link.
2. Review the system operation in order to familiarize yourself with the system functions. Refer to Heated Seats Description and Operation
Visual/Physical Inspection
• Inspect for aftermarket devices which could affect the operation of the power seats. Refer to Checking Aftermarket Accessories.
• Inspect the easily accessible or visible system components for obvious damage or conditions which could cause the symptom.
• Inspect the seat adjuster track for conditions which may cause binding or objects within the seat adjustment range which obstruct movement or interfere with wiring.
Intermittent
Faulty electrical connections or wiring may be the cause of intermittent conditions. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections.
Symptom List
Refer to the Front Heated Seat Malfunction diagnostic procedure in order to diagnose the symptom.
Front Heated Seat Malfunction
Diagnostic Instructions
• Perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.
• Review Strategy Based Diagnosis for an overview of the diagnostic approach.
• Diagnostic Procedure Instructions provides an overview of each diagnostic category.
The driver and passenger heated seats are controlled by separate heated seat switches that are located in the HVAC control. When a heated seat switch is pressed, a serial data message is sent from the HVAC control to the HVAC control module indicating the heated seat command. The HVAC control module serves as a gateway to transmit the message to the heated seat control module via the serial data line. In response to this message, the seat heating control module applies battery positive voltage through the element supply voltage circuit to the appropriate seat heating elements. The seat heating control module then sends a serial data message back to the HVAC control module to gateway the information to the HVAC control to either illuminate or turn off the appropriate temperature indicator.
Reference Information
Schematic Reference
Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics Connector End View Reference
Component Connector End Views Description and Operation
Heated Seats Description and Operation Electrical Information Reference
• Circuit Testing
• Connector Repairs
• Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections
• Wiring Repairs
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References for scan tool information
Circuit/System Verification
1.Engine ON, observe the scan tool Driver Seat Heating/Venting/Cooling Mode parameter while pressing the driver HEATED seat switch. The reading should change between Off and Back & Cushion Heat.
⇒ If not the specified value, replace the A26 HVAC control.
2.Observe the scan tool Passenger Seat Heating/Venting/Cooling Mode parameter while pressing the passenger HEATED seat switch. The reading should change between Off and Back & Cushion Heat.
⇒ If not the specified value, replace the A26 HVAC control.
3.If all scan tool parameter readings are normal, there are no DTCs set, and the driver and/or passenger heated seat is inoperative, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
Repair Instructions
Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification after completing the diagnostic procedure.
• Heater and Air Conditioning Control Replacement
• Control Module References for seat heating control module replacement, setup, and programming
The heated seat temperature sensor that set this diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is located in the seat cushion just under the seat cover with the seat heating element. The seat heating control module supplies a 5 V reference voltage through the temperature sensor signal circuit and a ground through the low reference circuit to the sensor. The module monitors the voltage of the sensor signal circuit to determine the temperature of the seat. The temperature sensor varies in resistance based on the temperature of the heating element causing the signal voltage to change. Once the seat reaches the set temperature, the module will then cycle the control circuit of the heating elements ON and OFF in order to maintain the desired seat temperature based on the feedback voltage from the sensor.
Conditions for Running the DTC
• DTC B1325 must not be present.
• The seat heating control module must be powered.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
B1925 02 or B2170 02
The temperature sensor voltage drops below 0.6 V for more than 1 second.
B1925 05 or B2170 05
The temperature sensor voltage is greater than 5 V for more than 1 second.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The heated seat function for the affected seat will be disabled.
Conditions for Clearing the DTC
• The current DTC will clear and set the code to history 3 seconds after the reference voltage returns to normal operating range and the ignition is cycled OFF then back to ACC or RUN.
• The history DTC will clear after 40 consecutive fault-free ignition cycles have occurred.
Reference Information
Schematic Reference
Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics
Connector End View Reference
Component Connector End Views
Description and Operation
Heated Seats Description and Operation
Electrical Information Reference
• Circuit Testing
• Connector Repairs
• Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections
• Wiring Repairs
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References for scan tool information
Circuit/System Testing
B1925 02 or B1925 05
Ignition OFF, disconnect the X2, X3 harness connectors at the K29 seat heating control module.
Test for 500 O - 300 kO between the signal circuit terminal 3 X3 and the low reference circuit terminal 13 X2.
⇒ If less than the specified range, test for a short between the signal and low reference circuits. If the circuits test normal, replace the E14B seat cushion heating element.
⇒ If greater than the specified range, test the signal circuit and low reference circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuits test normal, replace the E14B seat cushion heating element.
Ignition OFF, connect the X2, X3 harness connectors at the K29 seat heating control module and disconnect the harness connector at the E14B seat cushion heating element.
Ignition On, test for 4.8 - 5.2 V between the signal circuit terminal 2 and ground.
⇒ If less than the specified range, test the signal circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
⇒ If greater than the specified range, test the signal circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
If all circuits test normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
B2170 02 or B2170 05
Ignition OFF, disconnect the X2, X3 harness connectors at the K29 seat heating control module.
Test for 500 O - 300 kO between the signal circuit terminal 4 X3 and the low reference circuit terminal 14 X2.
⇒ If less than the specified range, test for a short between the signal and low reference circuits. If the circuits test normal, replace the E14D seat cushion heating element.
⇒ If greater than the specified range, test the signal circuit and the low reference circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuits test normal, replace the E14D seat cushion heating element.
Connect the X2, X3 harness connectors at the K29 seat heating control module and disconnect the harness connector at the E14D seat cushion heating element.
Ignition On, test for 4.8 - 5.2 V between the signal circuit terminal 2 and ground.
⇒ If less than the specified range, test the signal circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
⇒If greater than the specified range, test the signal circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
If all circuits test normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
Repair Instructions
Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification after completing the diagnostic procedure.
• Driver or Passenger Seat Cushion Heater Replacement
• Control Module References for seat heating control module replacement, setup, and programming
The seat heating control module controls seat heating operation for both the driver and front passenger seats. The heating elements are controlled through individual high side and low side control circuits. The low side control circuits for both seats are connected to a common reference point internal to the module. This reference point is biased to approximately 2.5 V. Before the seat heating control module will allow heated seat operation, it checks to see if this biased voltage is shorted to ground or voltage. Once the module verifies that it is not closing to a shorted heating element, it allows for heated seat operation. The module will then continue to monitor the heating elements for a shorted circuit.
Conditions for Running the DTC
The seat heating control module must be powered.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
B2345 13
Any temperature sensor input that remains below 1.5 V for more than 1 second.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The heated seat function for both seats will be disabled.
Conditions for Clearing the DTC
• The current DTC will clear and set the code to history 3 seconds after the reference voltage returns to the normal operating range and the ignition is cycled OFF then back to ACC or RUN.
• The history DTC will clear after 40 consecutive fault-free ignition cycles have occurred.
Reference Information
Schematic Reference
Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics
Connector End View Reference
Component Connector End Views
Description and Operation
Heated Seats Description and Operation
Electrical Information Reference
• Circuit Testing
• Connector Repairs
• Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections
• Wiring Repairs
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References for scan tool information
Circuit/System Testing
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the X2, X3 harness connectors at the K29 seat heating control module.
2. Test for greater than 3.0 kΩ between the signal and the low reference circuits listed below:
⇒ If less than the specified value, test for a short between the signal and low reference circuits. If the circuits test normal, replace the appropriate E14 seat cushion heating element.
3. If all circuits test normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
Repair Instructions
Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification after completing the diagnostic procedure.
• Driver or Passenger Seat Back Cushion Heater Replacement
• Driver or Passenger Seat Cushion Heater Replacement
• Control Module References for seat heating control module replacement, setup and programming
The driver and front passenger heated seats are controlled by the seat heating control module that is located under the driver seat cushion. When the heated seat is active, the module applies power through a common voltage supply circuit to the seat heater elements. The module controls the seat temperature by providing a pulse width modulation (PWM) ground through the seat heater element control circuit to the heater elements. The module then monitors the current flow through the heating elements and the rate of change of the temperature sensor to verify correct heated seat operation.
Conditions for Running the DTC
• DTC B1325 must not be present.
• Engine must be running.
• The seat heating control module must be powered and the heated seat must be enabled.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
B2425 0D or B2430 0D
By measuring current and voltage output to the seat heating elements every 10 seconds, the seat heating control module calculates that the heating element resistance is above the maximum resistance.
B2425 0B, B2425 0E, B2430 0B, or B2430 0E
By measuring current and voltage output to the seat heating elements every 10 seconds, the seat heating control module calculates that the heating element resistance is below the minimum resistance.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The heated seat function for the affected seat will be disabled.
Conditions for Clearing the DTC
• The current DTC clears when the malfunction is no longer present, and the power mode changes to OFF then back to ACC or RUN.
• The history DTC will clear after 40 consecutive fault-free ignition cycles have occurred.
Reference Information
Schematic Reference
Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics
Connector End View Reference
Component Connector End Views
Description and Operation
Heated Seats Description and Operation
Electrical Information Reference
• Circuit Testing
• Connector Repairs
• Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections
• Wiring Repairs
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References for scan tool information
Circuit/System Testing
B2425 0B, B2425 0D, or B2425 0E
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the E14A seat back heating element.Note: Element resistance must be measured twice to ensure that all failure conditions are simulated. First with the seat unoccupied, then with the seat occupied.
2. Test for 0.5 - 5 Ω between terminal 1 and terminal 2.
If not within the specified range, replace the E14A seat back heating element.
3. Connect the harness connector at the E14A seat backrest heating element and disconnect the X2 harness connector at the K29 seat heating control module.Note: Element resistance must be measured twice to ensure that all failure conditions are simulated. First with the seat unoccupied, then with the seat occupied.
4. Test for 1 - 7 Ω between control circuit terminal 3 and control circuit terminal 1.
⇒ If less than the specified range, test for a short between the control circuits. If the circuits test normal, replace the E14B seat cushion heating element.
⇒ If greater than the specified range, test the control circuits for an open/high resistance. If the circuits test normal, replace the E14B seat cushion heating element.
5.If all circuits test normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
B2430 0B, B2430 0D, or B2430 0E
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the E14C seat back heating element.Note: Element resistance must be measured twice to ensure that all failure conditions are simulated. First with the seat unoccupied, then with the seat occupied.
2. Test for 0.5 - 5 Ω between terminal 1 and terminal 2.
⇒ If not within the specified range, replace the E14C seat back heating element.
3.Connect the harness connector at the E14C seat backrest heating element and disconnect the X2 harness connector at the K29 seat heating control module.Note: Element resistance must be measured twice to ensure that all failure conditions are simulated. First with the seat unoccupied, then with the seat occupied.
4. Test for 1 - 7 Ω between control circuit terminal 5 and control circuit terminal 2.
⇒ If less than the specified range, test for a short between the control circuits. If the circuits test normal, replace the E14D seat cushion heating element.
⇒ If greater than the specified range, test the control circuits for an open/high resistance. If the circuits test normal, replace the E14D seat cushion heating element.
5. If all circuits test normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
Repair Instructions
Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification after completing the diagnostic procedure.
• Driver or Passenger Seat Cushion Heater Replacement
• Control Module References for seat heating control module replacement, setup, and programming
The seat heating control module controls the seat heating operation for both the driver and front passenger seats. The module controls the heating elements through individual high side and low side control circuits. The low side control circuits for both seats are connected to a common reference point internal to the module. This reference point is biased to approximately 2.5 V. Before the seat heating control module will allow heated seat operation, it checks to see if this biased voltage is shorted to ground or voltage. Once the module verifies that it is not closing to a shorted heating element, it allows for heated seat operation. The module will then continue to monitor the heating elements for a shorted circuit.
Conditions for Running the DTC
• DTC B1325 must not be present.
• The seat heating control module must be powered.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
B242A 01
The seat heating control module detects a short to voltage on the heater element control circuits.
B242A 02
The seat heating control module detects a short to ground on the heater element control circuits.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The heated seat function for both seats will be disabled.
Conditions for Clearing the DTC
• The current DTC will clear and set a history code 3 seconds after the reference voltage returns to normal operating range and the ignition is cycled OFF then back to ACC or RUN.
• The history DTC will clear after 40 consecutive fault-free ignition cycles have occurred.
Reference Information
Schematic Reference
Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics
Connector End View Reference
Component Connector End Views
Description and Operation
Heated Seats Description and Operation
Electrical Information Reference
• Circuit Testing
• Connector Repairs
• Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections
• Wiring Repairs
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References for scan tool information
Circuit/System Testing
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the X2 harness connector at the K29 seat heating control module.
2.Test for infinite resistance between the control circuit terminal 3 and ground.
⇒ If not the specified value, test the control circuit for a short to ground.
3. Test for infinite resistance between the control circuit terminal 5 and ground.
⇒ If not the specified value, test the control circuit for a short to ground.
4. Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp does not illuminate between the control circuit terminal 3 and ground.
⇒ If the test lamp illuminates, test the control circuit for a short to voltage.
5. Verify that a test lamp does not illuminate between the control circuit terminal 5 and ground.
⇒ If the test lamp illuminates, test the control circuit for a short to voltage.
6. If all circuits test normal, replace the K29 seat heating control module.
Repair Instructions
Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification after completing the diagnostic procedure.
Control Module References for seat heating control module replacement, setup, and programming
17:th-Apr-2014, 17:09:03 (This post was last modified: 3:rd-Apr-2022, 11:21:00 by Rusty2009.)
There are some connections on the heater pads themselves which I can't get any info on other than what's in the table below.
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[TD]E14A[/TD]
[TD]Seat Heating Element – Driver Back[/TD]
[TD]KA1[/TD]
[TD]In the passenger compartment, in the back of the driver seat[/TD]
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[TD]E14B[/TD]
[TD]Seat Heating Element – Driver Cushion[/TD]
[TD]KA1[/TD]
[TD]In the passenger compartment, in the cushion of the driver seat[/TD]
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[TD]E14C[/TD]
[TD]Seat Heating Element – Passenger Back[/TD]
[TD]KA1[/TD]
[TD]In the passenger compartment, in the back of the passenger seat[/TD]
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[TD]E14D[/TD]
[TD]Seat Heating Element – Passenger Cushion[/TD]
[TD]KA1[/TD]
[TD]In the passenger compartment, in the cushion of the passenger seat[/TD]
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[TD]E15[/TD]
[TD]Steering Wheel Heater[/TD]
[TD]UVD[/TD]
[TD]In the passenger compartment, in the steering wheel[/TD]
[/TR]
17:th-Apr-2014, 17:24:05 (This post was last modified: 3:rd-Apr-2022, 11:22:06 by Rusty2009.)
K29 Seat Heating Control Module X1
Connector Part Information
Harness Type: Driver Seat
• OEM Connector: 88988990
• Service Connector: Service by Harness - See Part Catalog
• Description: 2-Way F Metri-Pack 280 Series (BK)
14:th-Oct-2014, 19:04:42 (This post was last modified: 3:rd-Apr-2022, 11:23:24 by Rusty2009.)
Front Seat Cushion Cover and Pad Replacement
Removal Procedure
Warning: Refer to SIR Warning .
Warning: Replace the passenger presence system as a complete assembly to prevent possible injury to the occupant. The bladder, the pressure sensor, the seat cushion, and the control module are assembled and calibrated as a unit. Using only some of the components in the service kit will cause the passenger presence system to operate improperly.
1. Remove the driver or passenger seat. Refer to Driver or Passenger Seat Replacement .
2. Remove the driver or passenger seat inner recliner finish cover. Refer to Driver or Passenger Seat Inner Recliner Finish Cover Replacement .
3. Remove the front seat cushion side finish panel. Refer to Front Seat Cushion Side Finish Panel Replacement .
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4. Detach the driver or passenger seat back cushion cover on the lower rearside of the backrest.
5. Release and disconnect the backrest wiring harness plug (1), if equipped.
6. Remove the 4 front seat backrest bolts (2).
7. Remove the backrest from the seat.
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8. Detach the driver or passenger seat cushion cover (1) from the seat frame (3) all way round.
9. Remove the driver or passenger seat cushion cover along with the pad from the seat frame.
10. Remove the driver or passenger seat cushion cover (1) from the pad (2), remove hogrings.
Installation Procedure
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1. Install the driver or passenger seat cushion cover (1) to the pad (2), install hogrings.
2. Install the driver or passenger seat cushion cover along with the pad to the seat frame (3).
3. Attach the driver or passenger seat cushion cover (1) to seat frame (3) all way round.
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4. Install the backrest to the driver or passenger seat.
Caution: Refer to Fastener Caution .
5. Tighten the 4 driver or passenger seat back cushion frame bolts (2) to 35 N·m (26 lb ft) .
6. Connect and latch the backrest wiring harness plug (1), if equipped.
7. Attach the cushion cover to the backrest below.
8. Attach the driver or passenger seat back cushion cover on the lower rearside of the backrest.
9. Install the front seat cushion side finish panel. Refer to Front Seat Cushion Side Finish Panel Replacement .
10. Install the driver or passenger seat inner recliner finish cover. Refer to Driver or Passenger Seat Inner Recliner Finish Cover Replacement .
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looks like i will be replacing the front drivers heater pad very soon
as it is cutting out more and more now so any help with removing the seat cover any tips will be welcome thank,s.
Im really happy to find some informations on how to solve the seat heating problems on our Opel/Vauxhall Astra J.
Recently I got a B2425 DTC, it said "too high resistance", so I'm guessing it's the B2425 0D DTC. I know where the K29 X2 connector is located, but I'm still trying to find out where I can find the E14A connector.
Obviously it's located somewhere in the back of the seat, but my brain just doesn't want to get it. @tucpal did a really great How To, I want to follow it but firtly need to find out which heating element is broken.
So: Is the E14A connector the yellow one or the white-black one (-> pictures) ?
E14A is not a connector it's a heater pad Which is the Drivers back cushion.
The Fix Vauxhall do doesn't last long I've just brought a cascada interior to replace the front seats in mine Not heard of any heater seat issues on them I know John got a zafria Touerer seat to replace his..
So basicly you need to change the entire seat to a similar one, but from a Cascade or Zafira where there a no issues known. Do I understand you right?
In Germany most people either change the K29 X2 connector (mine is already the updated one with the green colour, although it's a 2011, but only the driver seat heating doesn't work, it shuts down after 1-2 minutes on level 2 and 3) or change the broken seat heating elemnt. But some of them also said the the problem occurred after roughly a year again. Passenger seat heating works entirely fine on mine though, so I thought I would just follow the instructions in the first post.
But if you say that most likely it won't be the solution, I don't know if I should change the heating element, considering it costs around 130€, which is about 115£. On the other side, buying a whole new seat doesn't make sense too, since in Germany it should cost really much.
I paid less than the price of the seat heater pad for 2016 zafira seat with less than 15000 miles on it so to me it made far more sense, and I believe Rusty got a good deal on his seats to.
Definitely worth a look around.
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8:th-May-2018, 16:16:33 (This post was last modified: 8:th-May-2018, 16:18:14 by Kenno71.)
So the seats from 2015-2016 mainly doesn't have the problem anymore and fit onto the Astra J?
Thats actually a really good solution, since you doesn't have to battle with removing the heating element, which is really annoying. Didn't thought about that one, thanks guys!
Now I just need to find one, which is from a 2015-2016 car, this is gonna be the most difficult task... Don't even know where to start searching this seat.
(8:th-May-2018, 16:16:33)Kenno71 Wrote: So the seats from 2015-2016 mainly doesn't have the problem anymore and fit onto the Astra J?
Thats actually a really good solution, since you doesn't have to battle with removing the heating element, which is really annoying. Didn't thought about that one, thanks guys!
Now I just need to find one, which is from a 2015-2016 car, this is gonna be the most difficult task... Don't even know where to start searching this seat.
They do come up on ebay, just a case of keep searching really
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I wouldn't bother looking a 2015-2016 Astra J seat they still have the issue.
But yes swapping the seat out has to be the cheaper quicker option, I paid £180 for the Cascada seats which is both front's and rear with centre console the bonus is the cascada seats have fan's in them for seat cooling & the passenger seat has lumber with after 2011-2012 was dropped from the J's.
But, at least in Germany, there are the same heating problems on the Cascadas and Zafiras as on the Astras. Does Vauxhall/Opel use different manufactures?
(11:th-May-2018, 13:17:10)Kenno71 Wrote: But, at least in Germany, there are the same heating problems on the Cascadas and Zafiras as on the Astras. Does Vauxhall/Opel use different manufactures?
I can't see them using a different manufacture but I've certainly not found any complaints here about the zaffy and cascada heater seats.
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