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RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Davy20121957 - 18:th-Feb-2017
Hi I am a newbie 1st time on and very interested in cd400 to 500navi upgrade looking for info on wiring
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 28:th-Apr-2017
Hi.
I'm new here and wondered if someone could help with a cd400 to navi 950 upgrade in a 2011 astra j. I have the head unit control panel and display.
Thanks
John
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 29:th-Apr-2017
A 950 wouldn't have been fitted to your year from factory it would be a 600-900.
I'm willing to try and get it working for you tho.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 29:th-Apr-2017
Thanks maybe I should find a 600 instead, I haven't got the little link wire though. What sort of money are look looking at to do the 950 or a 600.i have put the 950 on ebay in the mean time but can cancel it if it's possible to do. Hope that makes some sense.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 29:th-Apr-2017
You'd need the display cable these can be brought from ebay £27.00 also USB which you can only get as part of the whole dash loom.
I can deffo try getting your 950 working but I wouldn't say 100% it will. The cost would be £60 to fit & program.
If you went for the Navi600/900 it would be £60 to fit & program but there maybe an extra €95 (around £88 VCI request fee) on top.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 29:th-Apr-2017
You don't have a link for the cable do you. Is there an alternative I see on ebay there is a oem style screen thing for £599
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 29:th-Apr-2017
The listing has ended but this is the guy who sells them
http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/nick1919rot?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Had a few off him.
You could go down the M072 unit route which a fair few members have got.
https://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/Thread-M072-S160-Android-Head-Unit-Install-Info
And if you from Icebox auto you get £25 you first order only on the M072 unit thou
http://www.iceboxauto.com/vauxhall-opel-astra-j-android-44-m072
You can use the following code to receive £25 off your order - AS8829CV
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 29:th-Apr-2017
I like the factory look and feel. So I'm going to keep an eye out for one of them wires and I think get a different head unit cd500 navi600 etc
Thanks for the help so far
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 30:th-Apr-2017
Would a dvd 800 be any good?
I want to keep the factory Bluetooth and dab I already have. Would that happen with the nav units and what's the difference between the cd400 and cd400 plus?
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 1:st-May-2017
(30:th-Apr-2017, 18:43:46)Jpbroad1970 Wrote: Would a dvd 800 be any good?
I want to keep the factory Bluetooth and dab I already have. Would that happen with the nav units and what's the difference between the cd400 and cd400 plus?
A 2011 can have cd500 DVD800 Navi600/900 yes you can keep the BT & DAB.
CD400+ has the USB.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 1:st-May-2017
(29:th-Apr-2017, 06:51:28)Rusty2009 Wrote: A 950 wouldn't have been fitted to your year from factory it would be a 600-900.
I'm willing to try and get it working for you tho.
(1:st-May-2017, 07:03:46)Rusty2009 Wrote:(30:th-Apr-2017, 18:43:46)Jpbroad1970 Wrote: Would a dvd 800 be any good?
I want to keep the factory Bluetooth and dab I already have. Would that happen with the nav units and what's the difference between the cd400 and cd400 plus?
A 2011 can have cd500 DVD800 Navi600/900 yes you can keep the BT & DAB.
CD400+ has the USB.
Thanks yet again lol
I may get myself a 400 plus in the meantime as waiting for the screen lead and USB is a function I don't have but want
(1:st-May-2017, 08:53:00)Jpbroad1970 Wrote:(29:th-Apr-2017, 06:51:28)Rusty2009 Wrote: A 950 wouldn't have been fitted to your year from factory it would be a 600-900.
I'm willing to try and get it working for you tho.
(1:st-May-2017, 07:03:46)Rusty2009 Wrote:(30:th-Apr-2017, 18:43:46)Jpbroad1970 Wrote: Would a dvd 800 be any good?
I want to keep the factory Bluetooth and dab I already have. Would that happen with the nav units and what's the difference between the cd400 and cd400 plus?
A 2011 can have cd500 DVD800 Navi600/900 yes you can keep the BT & DAB.
CD400+ has the USB.
Thanks yet again lol
I may get myself a 400 plus in the meantime as waiting for the screen lead and USB is a function I don't have but want
Don't know what I did there
Thanks yet again lol
I may get myself a 400 plus in the meantime as waiting for the screen lead and USB is a function I don't have but want
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - zzattack - 2:nd-May-2017
I hope to be able to use my CD500 (DVD800 really) panel with an android unit eventually. I suppose that rewiring the screen has no negative impact on lost functionality at all, but losing the armrest controls would suck bigtime, so I'm trying to avoid that. Also the CD500 panel feels a lot fancier... So let's not settle for that just yet.
Rusty2009 Wrote:CD400 control panel only has 3 pins on it Power, Ground and Network Bus.
CD500 control panel has 7 pins on it Power, Ground, Wake-up, Reset, Data High, Data Low and Data Shield.
Very informative. I've managed to dump most of the button presses coming from the CD400 unit. It does require a wakeup frame on the GMLAN bus before it starts to operate. Pretty basic stuff, I'm sure I can get this 100% reverse engineered.
Rusty2009 Wrote:The screen is also wired different
cd400 screen has 8 wires Power, Ground, Network Bus, Wake-up, Reset, Data High, Data Low & Data Shield.
Cd500 screen only has 4 Power, Ground, Dimming & Remote Enable.
Are these CD400 data/reset/wake-up lines connected to the exact same lines going to the CD500 panel? Do you know what kind of protocol is used on those data lines?
If most of this can be reverse engineered we could perhaps build an adapter that translates DVD800 commands to equivalent CD400 commands. That'll allow the CD500/DVD800 panel and armrest to work with android units.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 2:nd-May-2017
morning, is the wiring a trade secret, ive tried looking on global tis but cant make head nor tail of it and im normally ok
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 3:rd-May-2017
(2:nd-May-2017, 11:55:58)Jpbroad1970 Wrote: morning, is the wiring a trade secret, ive tried looking on global tis but cant make head nor tail of it and im normallythink ive got it sorted , a nights sleep and a good ponder
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 4:th-May-2017
its a shame we don't have anyone in the midlands that can do this mod and others, no disrespect to the 2 of you that offer it but its quite a trek . to be fair though its one i'm going to need to do myself to Bournemouth I believe .
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 25:th-May-2017
I've got one of these going cheap, a cd500 a display and control panel, left over from my project
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - jonux - 6:th-Jun-2017
Hey all! I've got insignia facelift for my wife recently and she's got this small screen with buttons underneath (part number 544930977) so i have decided to replace it to a Sat Nav version screen which is much bigger (Part Number 90802618). So i have purchased screen on Ebay and was exited as all cable plugs and fittings looked exactly the same! Took me 4 minutes to get it replaced! Ignition on and... NO PICTURE! I can use controls (Volume, skip, power, eject etc. etc.) and everything seem to work fine except the bloody screen! I believe screen gets signal for mini USB port at the back as if i don't plug this in all controls still works? What i am missing? Please help! Thank you in advance!
Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - mislav_os - 29:th-Jul-2017
I've made retrofit CD400 -> Navi 650 Intellilink on my Astra ST 2013
Radio was locked, also I was scared because I saw here that Navi 650/950 can go on year 2014 onwards.
But I've found a person who is doing this things on Astra J. He upgraded it in 3 hours and everything is working just like OEM
Unfortunately the procedure is a little bit illegal (especially because radio was locked)
Hehe
Just one thing I need to do: update the SW, because I have an Vauxhall logo and chime is beeping on right side (I have a LHD car).
It was late and we will do that next time.
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RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - blackcatpaul - 18:th-Aug-2017
I'm looking to have my CD400 upgraded to a NAVI 600 or better on my 2012 GTC. Anybody from the North East able to offer and prices and/or advice. Thanks in Advance.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 19:th-Aug-2017
(18:th-Aug-2017, 21:37:06)blackcatpaul Wrote: I'm looking to have my CD400 upgraded to a NAVI 600 or better on my 2012 GTC. Anybody from the North East able to offer and prices and/or advice. Thanks in Advance.
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RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Sietjeng - 23:rd-Aug-2017
hello guys, I am Said from the netherlands.
I have an Astra J from 2010 with the cd400, i bought a navi 900 system, but i found out it's not plug and play.. i am from the netherlands and i can't really find if it's possible to get this working?
i really hope i it's possible.. i have the display, the big computer with cd, a small module with multiple plugs(black plastic). the control panel, and a bluetooth module.
i have no extra wiring, so i mis a couple wire's.
hope you can help me!
Greetz, Said
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 24:th-Aug-2017
(23:rd-Aug-2017, 21:51:54)Sietjeng Wrote: hello guys, I am Said from the netherlands.
I have an Astra J from 2010 with the cd400, i bought a navi 900 system, but i found out it's not plug and play.. i am from the netherlands and i can't really find if it's possible to get this working?
i really hope i it's possible.. i have the display, the big computer with cd, a small module with multiple plugs(black plastic). the control panel, and a bluetooth module.
i have no extra wiring, so i mis a couple wire's.
hope you can help me!
Greetz, Said
No it's not plug & play there are wiring changes needed.
Maybe @zzattack could help do it for you.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 24:th-Aug-2017
Ok so forgive me if this has been asked before but I need help.
I have a 65 plate Astra 1.6 cdti Sri eco flex with cd400 fitted. I have no Bluetooth or DAB. I would like to either upgrade to the cd500 with Nav or one of the proper Astra nav units that come with Bluetooth and DAB? Is this possible and how hard is it to do? If it's not possible can anyone recommend an aftermarket unit that works well and keeps the steering wheel controls and other car configuration controls etc.
I have a lot to think about I know and I'm looking at spending about 400.
Any help appreciated guys thanks.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 24:th-Aug-2017
(24:th-Aug-2017, 10:56:39)golden5673 Wrote: Ok so forgive me if this has been asked before but I need help.
I have a 65 plate Astra 1.6 cdti Sri eco flex with cd400 fitted. I have no Bluetooth or DAB. I would like to either upgrade to the cd500 with Nav or one of the proper Astra nav units that come with Bluetooth and DAB? Is this possible and how hard is it to do? If it's not possible can anyone recommend an aftermarket unit that works well and keeps the steering wheel controls and other car configuration controls etc.
I have a lot to think about I know and I'm looking at spending about 400.
Any help appreciated guys thanks.
You won't get factory fitted Navi DAB & BT for £400 it's all possible but not at that price unless you can source the parts super cheap.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 24:th-Aug-2017
Ok so what would be the best option for after market unit? I've seen a few choices out there but not sure which one to go for. The android units seem like a good option as they have Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. Thanks again.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Sietjeng - 24:th-Aug-2017
(23:rd-Aug-2017, 21:51:54)Rusty2009 Wrote: No it's not plug & play there are wiring changes needed.
Maybe @zzattack could help do it for you.
Yes i found out it's not plug and play. hope someone can help me for some wiring and if its possible to get it working
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 25:th-Aug-2017
(24:th-Aug-2017, 16:58:42)golden5673 Wrote: Ok so what would be the best option for after market unit? I've seen a few choices out there but not sure which one to go for. The android units seem like a good option as they have Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. Thanks again.
You could go down the M072 unit route which a fair few members have got.
https://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/Thread-M072-S160-Android-Head-Unit-Install-Info
And if you from Icebox auto you get £25 you first order only on the M072 unit thou
http://www.iceboxauto.com/vauxhall-opel-astra-j-android-44-m072
You can use the following code to receive £25 off your order - AS8829CV
(24:th-Aug-2017, 17:54:52)Sietjeng Wrote:(23:rd-Aug-2017, 21:51:54)Rusty2009 Wrote: No it's not plug & play there are wiring changes needed.
Maybe @zzattack could help do it for you.
Yes i found out it's not plug and play. hope someone can help me for some wiring and if its possible to get it working
Sure zzattack will be on soon.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - zzattack - 25:th-Aug-2017
(24:th-Aug-2017, 17:54:52)Sietjeng Wrote: Yes i found out it's not plug and play. hope someone can help me for some wiring and if its possible to get it workingIs probably possible, can you send me a msg with the stuff you gathered?
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Sietjeng - 29:th-Aug-2017
(25:th-Aug-2017, 09:31:46)zzattack Wrote:(24:th-Aug-2017, 17:54:52)Sietjeng Wrote: Yes i found out it's not plug and play. hope someone can help me for some wiring and if its possible to get it workingIs probably possible, can you send me a msg with the stuff you gathered?
offcourse, i will send you tomorrow maybe with some pics is easier?
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - chrisspanner - 17:th-Sep-2017
Hello. I have a 2012 vauxhall astra with cd400. I want to chnage this to either the cd500 or nav600 with the display screen. can anyone near Southampton know how to do this and if so give me a price for them doing it all. Cheers
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 17:th-Sep-2017
(17:th-Sep-2017, 12:40:26)chrisspanner Wrote: Hello. I have a 2012 vauxhall astra with cd400. I want to chnage this to either the cd500 or nav600 with the display screen. can anyone near Southampton know how to do this and if so give me a price for them doing it all. Cheers
I'm your closest mate based in Bournemouth.
At the moment there is no sensible price Navi600's on ebay.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 17:th-Oct-2017
Ok so I'm bidding on a nav650 on eBay and the seller says they don't have the code for it so wondering how hard it is to source an unlock code and to get this working with my car? Does it need special programming to work with my car or will it just need the unlock code?
Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 17:th-Oct-2017
(17:th-Oct-2017, 14:05:48)golden5673 Wrote: Ok so I'm bidding on a nav650 on eBay and the seller says they don't have the code for it so wondering how hard it is to source an unlock code and to get this working with my car? Does it need special programming to work with my car or will it just need the unlock code?
So it’s you bidding on it was going to have a bid myself later.
If you win it PM me I can unlock it for you for £50 that includes return postage.
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RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 17:th-Oct-2017
Spot on cheers boss. I will let you know if I win.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 17:th-Oct-2017
(17:th-Oct-2017, 15:09:02)golden5673 Wrote: Spot on cheers boss. I will let you know if I win.
Never won it (stupid connection at work) but now I know you can sort them out I will look out for another one. And if anyone has one going please give me a shout.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 18:th-Oct-2017
(17:th-Oct-2017, 17:47:51)golden5673 Wrote:(17:th-Oct-2017, 15:09:02)golden5673 Wrote: Spot on cheers boss. I will let you know if I win.
Never won it (stupid connection at work) but now I know you can sort them out I will look out for another one. And if anyone has one going please give me a shout.
I'd look for a 950 tbh much better than the 650.
Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - mislav_os - 19:th-Oct-2017
I was bidding too, then I saw that it can't be shipped to my country. Haha
Can you tell me please what is the difference between 650 and 950? Except maps (650 has east/west Europe, 950 has full Europe)
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RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Jpbroad1970 - 19:th-Oct-2017
950 has built in Bluetooth Europe mapping some better USB options. But I agree far better unit but I'm bias lol
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RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 20:th-Dec-2017
Managed to get hold of this unit for free in exchange for a review. Happy days.
https://www.seicane.com/hd-touchscreen-android-cd-dvd-radio-gps-navigation-head-unit-for-2010-2011-2012-2013-opel-astra-j-support-wifi-bluetooth-music-audio-system-aux-1080p-backup-camera-s32754f
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - rlievens - 20:th-Dec-2017
golden5673 Wrote:Managed to get hold of this unit for free in exchange for a review. Happy days.
https://www.seicane.com/hd-touchscreen-android-cd-dvd-radio-gps-navigation-head-unit-for-2010-2011-2012-2013-opel-astra-j-support-wifi-bluetooth-music-audio-system-aux-1080p-backup-camera-s32754f
Lol, "HD 1080P Video" and "Playback HD 1080p Video" but only "1024*600" screen.
But anyways, nice to have for free I think.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 20:th-Dec-2017
Will see what its like when its in ha ha. Not really fussed about HD screen as long as its half decent it'll be better than the cd400
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 21:st-Dec-2017
So I've installed the unit and everything works great. Apart from the indicator noise no longer works and the no seat belt noise no longer works. Any help appreciated. I've double checked the wiring and can't see anything I've missed.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - rlievens - 21:st-Dec-2017
Maybe something in the settings of the unit?
I know you can controll the volume of those sounds with the standard unit, so I bet you also can with your android based one.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 21:st-Dec-2017
Ok cheers. I'll contact the manufacturer to see if they know because I can't find it ha ha.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - golden5673 - 26:th-Dec-2017
Ok so I managed to sort the sounds problem. But now my Tyre Pressure system keeps failing on the rear passenger tyre. Could this be related to me installing the new android head unit or just a coincidence? Also will my warranty be ok now I have the android unit installed? Any help and advice appreciated. Hope you've all had a great crimbo.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - param84 - 7:th-Jan-2018
Hello all
I have an Astra j 63 plate with cd400. Looking to purchase a navigation unit. I have looked at the m072 but think I'd prefer a vauxhall unit. I have seen a couple on eBay. How would I go about getting it coded to my car? Are there any that won't work with mine? Thanks. Param.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 7:th-Jan-2018
(7:th-Jan-2018, 02:41:08)param84 Wrote: Hello all
I have an Astra j 63 plate with cd400. Looking to purchase a navigation unit. I have looked at the m072 but think I'd prefer a vauxhall unit. I have seen a couple on eBay. How would I go about getting it coded to my car? Are there any that won't work with mine? Thanks. Param.
I'd go with a Navi950 it has BT built in and is far better than the old Navi900.
There is also wiring changes needed.
I can unlock the 650/950 and program them to any car with DAB & Rear Camera added (via the post) for £50.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - param84 - 7:th-Jan-2018
(7:th-Jan-2018, 08:36:01)Rusty2009 Wrote:(7:th-Jan-2018, 02:41:08)param84 Wrote: Hello all
I have an Astra j 63 plate with cd400. Looking to purchase a navigation unit. I have looked at the m072 but think I'd prefer a vauxhall unit. I have seen a couple on eBay. How would I go about getting it coded to my car? Are there any that won't work with mine? Thanks. Param.
I'd go with a Navi950 it has BT built in and is far better than the old Navi900.
There is also wiring changes needed.
I can unlock the 650/950 and program them to any car with DAB & Rear Camera added (via the post) for £50.
Thank you for the prompt response. I will keep an eye out for the 950. If anyone is selling or knows where I may be able to purchase one from please let me know.
Cheers.
Param.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Andrew_S-Wales - 23:rd-Feb-2018
Hello, first post on here just moved to my first Astra (Ford owner previously!). I'm very much enjoying my 64 plate Elite 2.0 CDTI with one exception - having buttons on the stereo and steering wheel for bluetooth etc but no functionality! If an upgrade to a better unit is possible, say Nav 600/650 could someone confirm what's needed? I'm guessing I'd have to find used units, controls etc and get someone to fit and code? Many thanks.
RE: Cd400 to nav500 upgrade. - Rusty2009 - 25:th-Feb-2018
(23:rd-Feb-2018, 21:08:42)Andrew_S-Wales Wrote: Hello, first post on here just moved to my first Astra (Ford owner previously!). I'm very much enjoying my 64 plate Elite 2.0 CDTI with one exception - having buttons on the stereo and steering wheel for bluetooth etc but no functionality! If an upgrade to a better unit is possible, say Nav 600/650 could someone confirm what's needed? I'm guessing I'd have to find used units, controls etc and get someone to fit and code? Many thanks.
If you wanted BT as part of the head unit you would need to look for a Navi950.
Otherwise your'll also need a BT module.
In terms of parts
Radio box, screen, screen surround, buttons, USB (USB/AUX & SD for 600 / 900), tray for USB, video cable & usb cables (but most scrap yards cut these).
You would also need to think about GPS signal there are a few options sharkfin (if you have the dummy already), aftermarket shark fin to cover AM/FM DAB & GPS.
You could also think about rear camera.
In terms of fitting I'm in Bournemouth and can do all the wiring needed and program it to your car, or there is John in Kettering @Jpbroad1970