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NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Lansa - 21:st-Jul-2018
Howdy folks,
I was wondering if it's possible to get a navi 950 retrofitted in a 2013 car.
It originally has a NAVI 900 (with bluetooth).
Would it need wiring changes?
I'm aware of the VCI codes required. I do own a MDI clone myself which hopefully will be able to program this.
Thank you in advance
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Rusty2009 - 22:nd-Jul-2018
Yes it is possible.
Only need to run a MIC wire.
be-aware of the VCI cost as the VCI is €95.00
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Lansa - 22:nd-Jul-2018
(22:nd-Jul-2018, 08:41:19)Rusty2009 Wrote: Yes it is possible.
Only need to run a MIC wire.
be-aware of the VCI cost as the VCI is €95.00
Oh my vehicle has a built in microphone, or do they use a different connection?
Are the wiring the same then?
Thanks in advance
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Rusty2009 - 22:nd-Jul-2018
The mic goes into the A11x4 plug on the back rather than the BT module and radio.
yes apart from the mic.
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Lansa - 22:nd-Jul-2018
(22:nd-Jul-2018, 12:13:17)Rusty2009 Wrote: The mic goes into the A11x4 plug on the back rather than the BT module and radio.
yes apart from the mic.
Ahh i see, Thanks a bunch Rusty!
Time to go scout for parts!
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Tylerrattv - 25:th-Jul-2018
i did it on my GTC that had a Navi900 i just jumped the connections on the plug that plugs into the BT module on the pin 9 to 18 pin 8 to 17 and pin 7 to 16. To change the Vin on the head unit i used a post on Cruzetalk.com pretty easy. no GM reprogramming required. https://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/137-gen1-audio-electrical-tutorials/224625-how-disassemble-radio-program-vin.html
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Lansa - 26:th-Jul-2018
Thanks for the very helpfull tutorial man!
I'll most likely try to get a used Navi 950, Would you happen to know if the display needs to be changed aswell? I heard they use a different one.
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Rusty2009 - 26:th-Jul-2018
Display does need changing.
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - sw_reijnders - 15:th-Jun-2019
is it okay to hack into this topic??
if i want to replace a cd500 with a navi 950
what parts need to be changed?
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Rusty2009 - 16:th-Jun-2019
(15:th-Jun-2019, 22:42:32)sw_reijnders Wrote: is it okay to hack into this topic??
if i want to replace a cd500 with a navi 950
what parts need to be changed?
Of course it is.
Main Navi box
Display screen
The control panel will still work but your find the Radio/band becomes the home button the CD/AUX becomes the source button.
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - sw_reijnders - 16:th-Jun-2019
(16:th-Jun-2019, 08:42:22)Rusty2009 Wrote:(15:th-Jun-2019, 22:42:32)sw_reijnders Wrote: is it okay to hack into this topic??
if i want to replace a cd500 with a navi 950
what parts need to be changed?
Of course it is.
Main Navi box
Display screen
The control panel will still work but your find the Radio/band becomes the home button the CD/AUX becomes the source button.
so all the wires and cable looms are the same?
that's good news
current uhp module will also work?
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Rusty2009 - 16:th-Jun-2019
(16:th-Jun-2019, 09:10:31)sw_reijnders Wrote:(16:th-Jun-2019, 08:42:22)Rusty2009 Wrote:(15:th-Jun-2019, 22:42:32)sw_reijnders Wrote: is it okay to hack into this topic??
if i want to replace a cd500 with a navi 950
what parts need to be changed?
Of course it is.
Main Navi box
Display screen
The control panel will still work but your find the Radio/band becomes the home button the CD/AUX becomes the source button.
so all the wires and cable looms are the same?
that's good news
current uhp module will also work?
Yes they are. No the UPH module will need to be removed as it's not used a new microphone wire would need to be ran up-to the roof, also if you have DAB you may need to add 2 data wires from DAB module to main radio plug.
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Lansa - 16:th-Jun-2019
As mentioned before on Facebook, the older generation astra radio's had a seperate bluetooth module "UPH". It sits underneath the radio box.
CD300, CD400, CD500, DVD 800, Navi 600, Navi 900.
These UPH bluetooth modules can only do phone calls.
(CD600, Navi 650 usually come with a UPH module, but there are versions of these radios which can bluetooth stream music)
The Navi 950 has it's own modern bluetooth module build into the radio itself. Which supports AD2P aswell as some more modern handsfree api's.
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If you wish to retrofit this radio, you'll have to disable your existing bluetooth module.
And then you have to rewire the existing microphone in your headliner to the back of the navi 950. (see A11x4)
You could try and depin the mic wires that go into the UPH module to the 950... (see K82 below)
But it's easier to just run new wires. (Rusty sells these replacement looms).
The hard part is scoring the unit itself, scrapyards know they're worth more.
K82
![[Image: stj84WS.png]](https://i.imgur.com/stj84WS.png)
A11x4
![[Image: zcf2TkI.png]](https://i.imgur.com/zcf2TkI.png)
![[Image: Ryw3BdN.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/Ryw3BdN.jpg)
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - welshp - 27:th-Nov-2020
Hi Guys, appreciate this thread spans a couple of years but having now purchased a NAVI 950 to replace my CD500 (NAV & DAB) assuming it was cheaper and easier (as in direct manufacturer replacement) than an aftermarket Android Auto with supporting looms / fascia etc. I may have made some unfounded assumptions :(
@Lansa, do you have a link to the microphone loom that rusty sells please?
Also, if the UHP module is no longer required, does this imply that DAB is included in the 950 and thus normal DAB rather than DAB+?
Cheers,
Paul.
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Lansa - 27:th-Nov-2020
(27:th-Nov-2020, 14:07:37)welshp Wrote: Hi Guys, appreciate this thread spans a couple of years but having now purchased a NAVI 950 to replace my CD500 (NAV & DAB) assuming it was cheaper and easier (as in direct manufacturer replacement) than an aftermarket Android Auto with supporting looms / fascia etc. I may have made some unfounded assumptions :(
@Lansa, do you have a link to the microphone loom that rusty sells please?
Also, if the UHP module is no longer required, does this imply that DAB is included in the 950 and thus normal DAB rather than DAB+?
Cheers,
Paul.
The navi 950 has it's own bluetooth built in, so the UHP module is no longer needed.
For DAB+ you will need an extra module and will be DAB+ (u4d module)
@rusty2009 will be able to sell you the loom if you ask him
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Jpbroad1970 - 27:th-Nov-2020
Hi Paul
if you already have uhp you can depin it out of the uhp connector and attach into 950 as previously described
you still need a dab module DAB+ is the better
you also need to make sure the 950 is programmed for dab etc
@rusty2009 can program off the car for you to include rear camera too
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Rusty2009 - 28:th-Nov-2020
I believe I've had an email which I will respond to tomorrow.
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - welshp - 8:th-Dec-2020
(28:th-Nov-2020, 23:43:28)Rusty2009 Wrote: I believe I've had an email which I will respond to tomorrow.
Cheers Guys, much appreciated.
Found Rusty's website (should have looked harder initially lol) and emailed him directly.
Just waiting on a query about programming. and still trying to find a 'sensibly priced' U4D (DAB+) :(
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Jpbroad1970 - 8:th-Dec-2020
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-2013-MOKKA-RADIO-RECEIVER-ECU-MODULE-UNIT-13410170-/114563540528?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
Cheapest I've found for a while
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - welshp - 8:th-Dec-2020
(8:th-Dec-2020, 21:09:43)Jpbroad1970 Wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-2013-MOKKA-RADIO-RECEIVER-ECU-MODULE-UNIT-13410170-/114563540528?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
Cheapest I've found for a while
Nice 1 Jpbroad1970, bagged that for £50
Did look on there not long before you posted but failed to see it so thanks very much
RE: NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013) - Jpbroad1970 - 8:th-Dec-2020
No worries, bit of a mission of mine finding cheaper bits