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Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - saarits - 10:th-Jan-2017
Hi,
i am trying to install the OEM rear view camera (1717006) into my Astra j (2011).
I have the new dvd/radio/navi-unit (a third party product) which is designed for Astra J (2011).
My plan is to install the wires from the camera to the radio unit, but I can't find any information about the order of the camera wiring.
Does anyone have pictures of the wiring harness (13391275) and particularly from the connector with wire color, please ?
It seems to pick up a feed from the reverse light (green wire), has an earth , connects to a pink wire at the front(ACC), and connects wires to pin 5 (White wire) and 15 (brown wire) on the multiplug on the back of radio unit.
I would like to get information how the colors of the cable (13391275) are connected to connector (E) see link and page 3 (http://www.ifz-berlin.de/ins_pdf/13391275.pdf).
The colors of the camera wires (connector) are:
- Orange
- Red
- Green
- Black
- Blue
- White
And the colours of wiring harness (13391275) are:
- Green -> reverse light
- Pink -> Acc from Fucebox to camera
- White -> video signal from camera to radio unit (hopefylly +)
- Brown -> video signal from camera to radio unit (hopefylly -)
- GND -> to tke ground/earth
Best regards
-saarits-
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - tucpal - 10:th-Jan-2017
what radio unit do you have as the OEM camera will only work with the nav 600/900
if your head unit is aftermarket you are best using an aftermarket camera
also the oem camera with the green connector is real bad picture you need the one with the gray plug
also a vci code from vauxhall will be needed to get it to work but only if you have rear factory parking sensors
i have just done it myself
https://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/Thread-Factory-Reverse-Camera-Astra-j-GTC-insignia
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 11:th-Jan-2017
If you have an aftermarket camera it will use an aftermarket camera not a factory camera.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - saarits - 11:th-Jan-2017
(10:th-Jan-2017, 18:24:09)tucpal Wrote: what radio unit do you have as the OEM camera will only work with the nav 600/900
if your head unit is aftermarket you are best using an aftermarket camera
also the oem camera with the green connector is real bad picture you need the one with the gray plug
also a vci code from vauxhall will be needed to get it to work but only if you have rear factory parking sensors
i have just done it myself
https://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/Thread-Factory-Reverse-Camera-Astra-j-GTC-insignia
Thank you for information, my plan A is using OEM camera, because it is better suited to the tailgate handle (original tailgate handle with a place for camera).
this is reason why i need to get information for OEM camera wiring (what colors goes GND, ACC, reverse light, video +, video -).
infortenately OEM camera connector is green :-C
If OEM camera doesn't works with aftermarket head unit and the picture is bad, then i will use aftermarket camera (that is my plan B) and edit tailgate handle to fit the aftermarket camera .
Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 11:th-Jan-2017
This is the camera Tucpal is on about.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222077967112
I can get the wiring info for you.
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RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - saarits - 11:th-Jan-2017
(11:th-Jan-2017, 09:25:15)Rusty2009 Wrote: This is the camera Tucpal is on about.my OEM camera is (OEM number 20928400, picture of : http://picclick.de/R%C3%BCckfahrkamera-Kamera-Heckklappe-20928400-Opel-Zafira-Tourer-C-121437207278.html)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222077967112
I can get the wiring info for you.
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Wiring colours are next, and my guess how to connecting wires:
- Orange -> (Video +) ?
- Red -> (ACC)
- Blue -> (Video -) ?
- Black -> (GND) ?
- Green -> (from reverse light) ?
- White -> (I opened the camera and the white and black are connected to the circuit board together)
how wrong i am ?
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - tucpal - 11:th-Jan-2017
You are not correct mate there are a few difrent wire color options on the rear camera
so reading the wire colors is useless really
the rear camera plug is not listed in TIS ether
so this is the pinout from the female side of the camera loom
so you need to read the plug back to front to get the MALE connector pin out for the camera side that you have.
like this..
1
6 2 4
7 3 5
6 2 4
7 3 5
you will be disappointed with the picture quality of the green plug camera
the gray plug camera is miles better
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - saarits - 12:th-Jan-2017
(11:th-Jan-2017, 21:07:34)tucpal Wrote: You are not correct mate there are a few difrent wire color options on the rear camera
so reading the wire colors is useless really
the rear camera plug is not listed in TIS ether
so this is the pinout from the female side of the camera loom
https://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/attachment.php?aid=718
so you need to read the plug back to front to get the MALE connector pin out for the camera side that you have.
like this..
1
6 2 4
7 3 5
you will be disappointed with the picture quality of the green plug camera
the gray plug camera is miles better
Hi, thanks again, but some reason i can't open your link....i got error message: you do not have permission to access this page. Please, could you send the picture directly my email: timppasaarinen66 (at) gmail.com ?
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 12:th-Jan-2017
(12:th-Jan-2017, 08:10:02)saarits Wrote:(11:th-Jan-2017, 21:07:34)tucpal Wrote: You are not correct mate there are a few difrent wire color options on the rear camera
so reading the wire colors is useless really
the rear camera plug is not listed in TIS ether
so this is the pinout from the female side of the camera loom
https://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/attachment.php?aid=718
so you need to read the plug back to front to get the MALE connector pin out for the camera side that you have.
like this..
1
6 2 4
7 3 5
you will be disappointed with the picture quality of the green plug camera
the gray plug camera is miles better
Hi, thanks again, but some reason i can't open your link....i got error message: you do not have permission to access this page. Please, could you send the picture directly my email: timppasaarinen66 (at) gmail.com ?
Yes that's because it is attached to the staff room area. please see attached below.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - saarits - 12:th-Jan-2017
(12:th-Jan-2017, 12:35:38)Rusty2009 Wrote:Hey, thats great, i will test how bad the picture is and after then make decision, is it plan A or B.(12:th-Jan-2017, 08:10:02)saarits Wrote:(11:th-Jan-2017, 21:07:34)tucpal Wrote: You are not correct mate there are a few difrent wire color options on the rear camera
so reading the wire colors is useless really
the rear camera plug is not listed in TIS ether
so this is the pinout from the female side of the camera loom
https://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/attachment.php?aid=718
so you need to read the plug back to front to get the MALE connector pin out for the camera side that you have.
like this..
1
6 2 4
7 3 5
you will be disappointed with the picture quality of the green plug camera
the gray plug camera is miles better
Hi, thanks again, but some reason i can't open your link....i got error message: you do not have permission to access this page. Please, could you send the picture directly my email: timppasaarinen66 (at) gmail.com ?
Yes that's because it is attached to the staff room area. please see attached below.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - saarits - 15:th-May-2017
(12:th-Jan-2017, 13:44:10)saaritsHi, this project takes very long time, but now it\s done. The head unit, screen, reverse cam and other things are installed, works fine, thanks to you all. I used the OEM camera (green connector) and I am satisfied with the camera Wrote:(12:th-Jan-2017, 12:35:38)Rusty2009 Wrote:Hey, thats great, i will test how bad the picture is and after then make decision, is it plan A or B.(12:th-Jan-2017, 08:10:02)saarits Wrote:(11:th-Jan-2017, 21:07:34)tucpal Wrote: You are not correct mate there are a few difrent wire color options on the rear camera
so reading the wire colors is useless really
the rear camera plug is not listed in TIS ether
so this is the pinout from the female side of the camera loom
https://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/attachment.php?aid=718
so you need to read the plug back to front to get the MALE connector pin out for the camera side that you have.
like this..
1
6 2 4
7 3 5
you will be disappointed with the picture quality of the green plug camera
the gray plug camera is miles better
Hi, thanks again, but some reason i can't open your link....i got error message: you do not have permission to access this page. Please, could you send the picture directly my email: timppasaarinen66 (at) gmail.com ?
Yes that's because it is attached to the staff room area. please see attached below.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Jpbroad1970 - 22:nd-Jul-2017
Would this work on a nav 950,i have just installed parking sensors didn't need vci to activate so hopefully worth a go
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 23:rd-Jul-2017
(22:nd-Jul-2017, 20:07:03)Jpbroad1970 Wrote: Would this work on a nav 950,i have just installed parking sensors didn't need vci to activate so hopefully worth a go
Yes it would but VCI will be needed.
Never needed a VCI for parking sensors.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Jpbroad1970 - 23:rd-Jul-2017
OK thanks rusty
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - zzattack - 8:th-Aug-2017
Are these cheaper 25GBP cameras with gray plug also suitable?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/13473347-New-Vauxhall-Genuine-Reversing-Camera-420746075-/252823883663
How much of the wiring will be in place already?
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 8:th-Aug-2017
The grey plug ones are newer cameras which replaced the green plug one's.
there is no wiring already in place.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - zzattack - 8:th-Aug-2017
Where is the wiring supposed to run to? Separate control box or just to the headunit?
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 8:th-Aug-2017
2 wires run to the head-unit the others go to ground run-crank (rear fuse board) and reverse light
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - zzattack - 8:th-Aug-2017
On the A11 X1 connector?
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 8:th-Aug-2017
(8:th-Aug-2017, 15:51:06)zzattack Wrote: On the A11 X1 connector?
A11x4
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - zzattack - 8:th-Aug-2017
Could you post the wiring diagram to that?
Mine has only 3 used pins, 2 for voice recognition and 1 for wheel speed sensor.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 9:th-Aug-2017
Shouldn't have one for wheel senor,
Should be a dimming control, mic & rear cam.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - zzattack - 9:th-Aug-2017
6. Voice Recognition Audio Signal
16. Voice Recognition Audio Low Reference
20. AAS Wheel Speed Sensor Signal Left Front
So I guess the voice recognition stuff is the same but the wheel speed isn't used on the J?
The siggy radio does have an option for speed-controlled volume adaptation.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 9:th-Aug-2017
(9:th-Aug-2017, 09:06:43)zzattack Wrote: 6. Voice Recognition Audio Signal
16. Voice Recognition Audio Low Reference
20. AAS Wheel Speed Sensor Signal Left Front
So I guess the voice recognition stuff is the same but the wheel speed isn't used on the J?
The siggy radio does have an option for speed-controlled volume adaptation.
May have to look up this speed sensor as I have the setting speed dependant volume but it's never worked.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - zzattack - 9:th-Aug-2017
I have the setting on maximum. It's pretty good!
Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - mislav_os - 1:st-Nov-2017
Hi. I have 2013 SportsTourer with retrofitted Navi 650.
Now I would like to retrofit OEM rear view camera.
I need this, right?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F302492775622
What else I need to add, wires from camera to a11 x4 and HU, right?
I don't have parking sensor and I think that this will be much smarter upgrade than p.sensors.
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Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - umognog - 1:st-Nov-2017
I could be wrong, but that looks like a camera for the hatch which fits into the handle space, not the tourer?
You would need looms + the compatible head unit and probably need it programmed as well.
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RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 2:nd-Nov-2017
That camera would need the bumper cutting in-between the number-plate lights.
There is only 2 wires that go to the A11x4 plug (video signals)
The rest hook in the rear of the car,
1 to rev light wire
1 to run crank on the rear fuse-board
1 to ground.
The video wire need's to be shielded.
Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - umognog - 2:nd-Nov-2017
Wait, the rear camera on this thing does crack runs?
Now I know what I am telling the fuzz.
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RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 2:nd-Nov-2017
Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - mislav_os - 2:nd-Nov-2017
Rusty2009 thank you.
I've found that I need GM 13391275 , that is for my ST. Price is 200€ at my local Opel dealership and they said that is all in package: camera, new door handle for trunk and all looms. I need to install it to my car and they will activate it via VCI code. True?
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RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 2:nd-Nov-2017
Yes they do a package & yes it can be activated via VCI.
See the install instructions
http://www.ifz-berlin.de/ins_pdf/13391275.pdf
Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - mislav_os - 3:rd-Nov-2017
Thanks once again. It will be very helpful.
Today I was at my local Opel dealer and they told me that they can't install it because I don't have rear parking sensors. They didn't know reason why is that.
OK I wouldn't go there for VCI (guy who did Navi retrofit will activate it) but is really problem that I haven't rear sensors?
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RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Jerry - 3:rd-Nov-2017
The Opel dealer told me the same thing. Strange?? :-)
But then I installed the rear camera (from Phonocar) by myself and the dealer activated it (VCI code required).
Works without park sensors.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 3:rd-Nov-2017
They are totally incorrect you can have rear camera without sensors fitted enough to know.
Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - mislav_os - 3:rd-Nov-2017
Jerry yes, that's really strange. They told me that this is notice from Opel. But great that I don't need sensors.
Rusty great. I'll send you PM, I have two questions about this.
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RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - niteram - 3:rd-Jun-2018
this is a very interesting thread
the kit doesn't seem too hard to fit
just got to find all the bits
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - niteram - 7:th-Oct-2018
right then,
I've now fitted my genuine reversing camera kit to my sport tourer (part no.13391275) - a long story
I ordered the kit from my local dealer, they had to order it from Germany as there was no stock in th UK.
It took 4 days for the kit to arrive, but when I opened the box the handle was missing!!
so they ordered another from Germany (4 more days), when it arrived the dealer opened the box - and no handle again!!
while I was there they checked the stock, only 2 more left, so they requested GM to do a physical stock check on the remaining 2, which took 2 weeks to complete.
anyway a complete kit turned up on Thursday, (four and a half weeks after I placed the order)
So if anyone else wants a genuine factory kit for a Sport tourer best get it ordered soon before the kit is NLA.
The good news is, fitting the kit was fairly easy, I soldered the cable joints rather than use crimp connectors as suggested in the instructions, the only real problem I had was getting the pins into the plug on the back of the radio, but it all worked first time, so all good.
really pleased so far.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Lansa - 9:th-Oct-2018
Same here, i ordered the kit in august. They didn't have it in stock and took a week to complete.
I had the loom and camera.
But not the handle! I asked my dealer and they contacted GM, who said it is no longer part of the kit.
the handle was over 250 quid! Thankfully i yanked one out of a wrecked Zafira C.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Big Dave2 - 10:th-Oct-2018
My reversing camera is part of the number plate light.
Works well enough, until it rains, and then all you see is a murky image due to the rear of the Astra being a dirt magnet.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - niteram - 10:th-Oct-2018
Hi,
thats odd, my dealer looked at the instructions (which shows handle on contents page) and eventually got me a complete kit.(the despatch date on label confirmed was a different box)
it looks like all their remaining stock may be incorrectly packed
they said that GM agreed the handle was part of the kit and that if a complete kit wasn't available, GM would supply a handle even though it was £250
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - modoncity - 15:th-Feb-2019
Hello everyone. just ask is this can be done with aftermarket camera and please can someone tell me which wire is revers gear single switch on head-unite.....
Thanks
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 16:th-Feb-2019
(15:th-Feb-2019, 21:05:21)modoncity Wrote: Hello everyone. just ask is this can be done with aftermarket camera and please can someone tell me which wire is revers gear single switch on head-unite.....
Thanks
Yes it has been done but much better doing it with the GM camera. there isn't a single it's all done on the canbus system.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - modoncity - 16:th-Feb-2019
SO WHICH WIRE I HAVE TO CONNECT THE FRONT END OF POWER CAMERA TO MAKE SWITCH ON THE RADIO DISPLAY IN REVERS GEAR ??
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 20:th-Feb-2019
Well that depends on which camera you are fitting, there is no need to type in full CAP'S.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - modoncity - 24:th-Feb-2019
Sorry it was just on. I fitting very sample aftermarket camera the wire for reverse gear which make switch on display cant fine in head unite i use DVD800.
can u advise please
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - Rusty2009 - 14:th-Mar-2019
(24:th-Feb-2019, 14:19:00)modoncity Wrote: Sorry it was just on. I fitting very sample aftermarket camera the wire for reverse gear which make switch on display cant fine in head unite i use DVD800.
can u advise please
There is a green & white wire in boot by fuse board, or you can tap in off the BCM.
RE: Astra J Sport tourer and OEM rear view camera - tzr608 - 26:th-Mar-2019
(14:th-Mar-2019, 08:55:45)Rusty2009 Wrote:(24:th-Feb-2019, 14:19:00)modoncity Wrote: Sorry it was just on. I fitting very sample aftermarket camera the wire for reverse gear which make switch on display cant fine in head unite i use DVD800.
can u advise please
There is a green & white wire in boot by fuse board, or you can tap in off the BCM.
any pictures of wiring would be much appreciated