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Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - Ceepee - 26:th-Apr-2016
Has anyone taken a turbo from the 1.6T Astra J and installed it on the non-turbo engine?
I'm looking into doing it to my 1.6 non-turbo Elite.
Any information would be awesome and I also apologise if there's a thread that already exists for this. I couldn't find any...
Cheers!
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - raimon - 26:th-Apr-2016
I think a lot of work would be involved in this. Might be easier just to get a new car.
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - mrtc - 26:th-Apr-2016
intresting tho altho id be intrested in biturbo ing a 2.0 cdti, for me there was always one car missing in the line up, a luxury astra elite but with biturbo, im not keen on the black and red tyre interior, bit child like
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - andy2174 - 26:th-Apr-2016
It would certainly be hard work to "turbo" a non turbo engine, its not just a case of bolting on turbo, might be easier to actually fit a 1.6T engine rather than "turbo" your existing car
I would have thought fitting a bigger turbo to a 2.0 cdti would be the route to go rather than going the bi-turbo route
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - Ceepee - 26:th-Apr-2016
(26:th-Apr-2016, 11:00:54)raimon Wrote: I think a lot of work would be involved in this. Might be easier just to get a new car.
I don't want a new car lol. I have 1.6 Elite in a lovely spec and I adore it. I'm fairly sure it was impossible to get my exact car with a turbo from the factory back in 2010, which is why I want to go to the trouble of fitting a turbo onto mine. It'll be a bit unique.
(26:th-Apr-2016, 17:06:33)andy2174 Wrote: It would certainly be hard work to "turbo" a non turbo engine, its not just a case of bolting on turbo, might be easier to actually fit a 1.6T engine rather than "turbo" your existing car
I would have thought fitting a bigger turbo to a 2.0 cdti would be the route to go rather than going the bi-turbo route
That's a fair point. I am considering that also, but if I'm going to swap the engine I'd probably look into a 2.0 vxr or something rather than just the 1.6T.
I'd be interested to see blueprints/diagrams of the 1.6T and non turbo engine side by side, because I honestly thought it would just be a case of adding the stock turbo from the 1.6T and all the turbo specific parts... I'd assume that anyway as car manufacturers make everything compatible and what not to make assembly quicker and easier etc.
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - andy2174 - 26:th-Apr-2016
It will certainly be unique
I am sure you could probably get some form of low boost turbo kit, with little engine mods and probably not even an intercooler, however, it wont give a lot more power either, it would probably easier to go for head work and cam to your existing car
I am sure the full fat 1.6T, was 180bhp and if you are looking for that figure you will need a lot of internal engine mods (pistons, valves etc) as well as a turbo, engine management, intercooler and all of the associated plumbing
It will certainly cost, a lot, probably not far off the value of your car
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - Ceepee - 26:th-Apr-2016
(26:th-Apr-2016, 19:00:28)andy2174 Wrote: It will certainly be unique
I am sure you could probably get some form of low boost turbo kit, with little engine mods and probably not even an intercooler, however, it wont give a lot more power either, it would probably easier to go for head work and cam to your existing car
I am sure the full fat 1.6T, was 180bhp and if you are looking for that figure you will need a lot of internal engine mods (pistons, valves etc) as well as a turbo, engine management, intercooler and all of the associated plumbing
It will certainly cost, a lot, probably not far off the value of your car
Hmm, you sure do talk sense haha. I have a lot of thinking to do. Perhaps I'll look into the head and cam for now, I had thought of this to be honest and I'm glad you brought it up. Thanks
And yeah, probably an expensive goal. But then I knew that hehe
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - Shorty S91 - 26:th-Apr-2016
it can be done but realistically if your not doing all the work yourself you'd be looking at upwards of 5 grand easy just to get a turbo installed, cooling, pipeing the works. Then you've got to think about spending all that money to run on low to average boost without major engine work, pistons valves rods etc. Plus a new map on the ECU or better an aftermarket one. Its definitely achievable but you would be better buying a turbo engine, with all the looms and control units and swapping it over.
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - bruce_19 - 27:th-Apr-2016
We are all thinking the same thing if you have the funds for an engine swap you are as well to go all out and get a VXR engine with customer wiring, ecu ect.
That way you would have a proper sleeper that would scare the crap out of most people including the Focus ST guys.
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - mrtc - 27:th-Apr-2016
vxr would be amazing, you would need a quaife lsd tho lol
RE: Turbo charging a non-turbo 1.6 Elite - Ceepee - 27:th-Apr-2016
(27:th-Apr-2016, 10:22:03)bruce_19 Wrote: We are all thinking the same thing if you have the funds for an engine swap you are as well to go all out and get a VXR engine with customer wiring, ecu ect.
That way you would have a proper sleeper that would scare the crap out of most people including the Focus ST guys.
Now I like the sound of that!