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Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 8:th-Nov-2014 This How to will Cover How to fit the Mini H1 2.5 HID Projectors into the Headlights for the Astra j 5 door with standard Halogen Headlights and will Give the Bi Xenon look without the Price Tag of fitting AFL and this is also the Correct way to fit HIDs as they Need Projectors to give the Correct Light Pattern. PARTS NEEDED....... 1. Set of Mini H1 2.5 HID RHD Projector Lenses. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151349891904?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 2. Butyl Headlight Glue. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261561165192?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 3. Headlights. New or Used or use your Own but Think of Resale as the Car will only Use HIDS so a Spare Pair may be Best. as you can put the Standard ones Back in the Car and sell the Projector Lights when the Time comes to Sell. 4. HID kit. you Must Get a H1 HID kit to fit the Projectors http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h1-canbus-terminator-hid-kit-slim-35w/ 5. Black Heat Resistant paint to paint the Halogen Reflector And to give a better look inside the Headlight again optional. STEP ONE............ This is what you Get with the MINI H1 HID RHD 2.5 Projector Lenses it is very Important you Get RHD Projectors for the UK or the Light Pattern will be Wrong the First step will be to Dismantle the Projectors and Clean the Lenses to Remove any Dust Dirt or Finger prints from the Projector Lenses. Remove the 4 Screws at the Front and pull the Lens away and Make a Note of How the Projector Plate with the Solenoid for High and Low beam all goes Back Together and Clean the Glass and Reassemble you can test the Solenoid works by Adding a 9 volt Battery and see if it Moves the Plate up and Down but i will Talk about that later on But now is a Good time to Test it works the High and Low beam Function is Optional you can Have it or Leave it just as a Low Beam it is Completely up to you. Now fit the Chrome Shroud Cover to the Projector it will need 4 small Screws to fit it Together. Next fit the Large Crush Washer to the back of the Projector remove the Three screws and Remove the Holding plate and Retaining nut and Add the Crush Washer this will Help hold the Projector into the Reflector housing. The Projector is now Ready to fit into the Headlight. STEP TWO............ Remove the Lens Covers from the Headlights i did try to Heat the Headlights and Try to Pull the Cover off but no luck Getting the Glue to stay Melted there are also some Staples that will Need to be Removed around the Light unit so i Opted to Dremil the Headlights apart i will now Need extra Bonding but it will all go Back together and be Water tight when i Reseal them. So the First job is to Clean all the Excess Plastic from the Light Covers and the Light Units so a Good Seal can be Made when it is Time to Reseal them. and then Drill two Holes for the Two Wires on the Projector Lights that will go to the High Beam and file Down the the Lip for the Light Bulb so the crush washer will fit Better Then Prime and Paint the Chrome Reflector to give a much Better look Rub the Chrome down with 600 Grit and use Metal Etch Primer and Heat Resistant paint. Next place some Metal tape around the Back of the Projector to stop any Light escaping out the Back of the Projector and make a Note of the Top. STEP THREE.......... Fit the Projectors into the Headlight units Position and Reseal the Headlights. First cut the Connector on the Projector and Thread the Two Wires through the two Holes you made then Place the Projector inside the Headlight making sure the End marked Top is Up and as Level as Possible. Now from the back Add the small Crush washer First then the Plate and then the Nut and lock it all Down making sure the Projector stays as Level as Possible and does not turn when you Tighten the Nut up use Long nose Pliers. Next Add the Holding Plate and add the Three screws. You can fine Tune the Horizontal Level by Turning the Holding plate And this is Best done Before you Resale the Covers fit the Lights back to the car and Then get the Horizontal Line correct First It is now Time to Reseal the Headlights and give them a Real Good Clean before hand use Butyl Windscreen Seal Glue simply apply it around the Headlight unit heat the Glue and press Down the Light Cover and allow 72 hrs to Cure and Harden then Apply more if Necessary this will give you a good Water Tight Seal i also put some Gorilla tape around the seal as it will Remain Tacky and i dont want the Seal Bonding to Anything else when they go Back in to the car a Good seal is Better than Looks you will not See the Join when the Lights are back in the car. STEP FOUR............. Fit the Bulbs back in to the Headlights units i will be Fitting the LED DRL,s and a How to can be Found Here. http://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/Thread-HOW-TO-LED-DRL-Error-free-for-the-Astra-J-5-door Next Take the two Wires from the Projector and Splice them in to the two wires for the High beam this will make the Solenoid open and close on the Projector and turn High and Low beam on the Projector so you will Have two High Beam Lights now this is Totally optional you do not have to do This if you just want the Projector to stay as the Main Beam only. Next the HID KIT can be Wired up so it is all Ready to fit and go Back into the car i will be Using A, H1 HID KIT as that is What Type oBbulb the Projectors use i have chosen the Terminator 35w, H1, 6000k, HID kit from HIDS DIRECT as this looks the Best and the kit is Error Free, make the Hole in the Center as the Bulb will need a Bit more Room i did Redo the Hole as it was in the Wrong Place and added a Cap from the Hid Kit so there is a bit More Room as the Bulb was a Tight Fit with just the cap making Adjustment Harder but this will cure the Problem and still be Water Tight Remove the Metal Clips for the H7 Holder then it will Fit back in to the Headlight unit I will mount the Ballasts inside the Engine Bay somewhere Safe and Wire the Ballasts up for the DRL,s also as they are Already Mounted in the Engine Bay. STEP FIVE........... Fit the new Headlights back into the car and Adjust the Light Pattern here is a Link on How to Remove the Front bumper. http://www.vxoc.org.uk/forum/Thread-How-to-remove-front-bumper-from-Astra-j-MK6-5-Door-Facelift This will be a Basic Light Adjustment and if you are Unsure get the Light Pattern adjusted by your Local Garage. Here is the Basic rule on Adjustment but he is Adjusting for LHD but the same will Apply for RHD. It is much Easier to Adjust the Light Pattern with the Light Units fitted to the car without or Before you fit the Front Covers back on i Suggest you get This Correct first Before you Bond the Cover back on. I have marked the Positions with the Halogen set up all Ready for the new Projector HID.S to use as a Guide Line to follow. And Here is the new Projector HID Light Pattern. And that is that all done. AS WITH ALL ELECTRICAL HOW TOO,S. you do this at your own risk if you follow the how to correctly there should be no problems thank you. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 28:th-Nov-2014 RESULTS.........
Here are the Pictures of the HID Projectors with the LED DRL,S all Fitted and Working now. And Here are some Pictures at night to show you all the Light Pattern and Light output. Over all it was Well worth the Hassle and i am very happy i love the Crisp Blueish white Light from the HIDS they Match the LED DRL Perfectly and the Projected Light is just so Much better. :cool AS WITH ALL ELECTRICAL HOW TOO,S. you do this at your own risk if you follow the how to correctly there should be no problems thank you. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Lewis6317 - 29:th-Nov-2014 Mate that os awesome :-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Rusty2009 - 29:th-Nov-2014 Top work mate and a top write up. How far from the wall are you when adjusting your lights? Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 29:th-Nov-2014 25 feet they will get a proper adjustment next week just to be safe i have been fine as no one has flashing me so far Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - cornishtaz - 29:th-Nov-2014 Nice work they look brighter than the oe afl Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 29:th-Nov-2014 it was fun going to work this morning for a change i love the way they light up the motorway nice and white and they light up road signs really well and looking at the step in the light pattern on walls is so addictive i used the 6000k HID KIT a nice bluish white light matching the LED DRL perfectly i am sure the 4700k bulb would give better vision on the road but not as white but ether one would look good i guess thanks all. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tomwalker23 - 30:th-Nov-2014 Looking good! Are these MOT safe? Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 30:th-Nov-2014 As long as the light pattern is correct and for RHD and the lights are aliened correctly basically there will be no problems with the headlight units with the projectors the HID bulbs with projectors should be ok as the light pattern is correct but HIDS with out projectors are a big no no if you look at the light pattern with HIDS in a halogen reflector the light pattern will be scatted unlike HIDS with projectors are clearly straight and defined there may be a need for washer jets and self leveling to be 100% legal ? but generally if the lights are aligned correctly there is no need to check them functions in an mot so most likely wont be noticed unless your tester is having a bad day loads of people have HIDS in there projectors and many get passes no problem strictly specking with out the self leveler you will have to set the lights a bit lower so you are not blinding the car in front in there rear view mirror when going over bumpy roads if you are all aliened correctly you should not have an issue with the mot and other drivers most people get a pull only due to miss aliened lights drawing attention to them but really HID bulbs are for off road use only anyway and are not legal you can always just put the origanl units back in if you dont want to take the chance of having a fail as they look like xenon units and the light pattern is correct they should pass. i am sure Keven can answer this as this is his area of expertise i wont have a problem with getting them through a MOT ether way as long as there aimed correctly i will get a pass :cool Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Rusty2009 - 30:th-Nov-2014 The GTC has projectors with manual leveling and no headlamp washers, I also noted the same on the new Zafira Tourer. It's only the AFL systems that have the headlamp washers and auto leveling. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Kevin - 1:st-Dec-2014 tomwalker23 Wrote:Looking good! Are these MOT safe? Not a problem, HIDs 'may' be fitted with self levelling and wash sytems, and if so, must work. Even if a car has a levelling system fitted, it's near impossible to check it's working properly, so the car must be issued with a pass. Likewise with washers, if someone glued down the washer jets and hid the pipework and wiring from view, it's a pass. Having said all that, I don't know about the road laws, but I believe the lighting regs are the same for both mot's and the traffic cop laws, so all should be good assuming like Tucpal mentions that alignment and pattern are good. One thing to remember though, the lights might be legal, but alarm bells may ring with the cops or mot tester that the car has had the 'boy racer' treatment elsewhere, so a slightly closer look for missing cats/dpf's, cut springs etc may follow. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 5:th-Dec-2014 i swapped the 6000k HID bulbs for the 5000k bulbs as the 6000k was just to blue for my liking they gave a nice whitey blue but faded at distance and the 5000k gives better lumens and vision on the road and still remains really white much better in my opinion Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Dewie93 - 4:th-Jan-2015 Looks awesome! I think there is something wrong with the lights i have fitted, the aftermarket units. It doesn't seem to have the right cut off points etc but I don't know how to adjust them :/ Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Rusty2009 - 5:th-Jan-2015 Go to a place that does MOTS mate they will do it for you, only charged me a fiver. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 5:th-Jan-2015 Most after market units are for LHD on the Astra j so can you show me your headlights I only know of one set that are for RHD also can you show me the light patten on a wall most after market units are not adjustable and they tend to use narrow beam projectors that look like two half circles and they won't give as good a light patten or a good cut off line as I get on the mono mini h1 projectors Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Lewis6317 - 5:th-Jan-2015 [MENTION=2]tucpal[/MENTION], i want to check on something. wasn't HID kits put down for MOT failure now or is this untrue? as i am thinking of getting a kit http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-CANBUS-ERROR-FREE-H7-XENON-HID-LIGHTS-KIT-ASTRA-CORSA-VECTRA-ZAFIRA-VXR-/251486979826?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AAstra&hash=item3a8dcac6f2 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-CANBUS-TERMINATOR-HID-XENON-CONVERSION-SLIM-KIT-2014-H7-35W-6000k-8000K-/221526227440?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AAstra&hash=item3393fdf9f0 Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 5:th-Jan-2015 No mate it is not correct or safe to put them in none projector headlights the light patten will not be correct Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Lewis6317 - 5:th-Jan-2015 Ok, so i would need to get them other lights or do you retro fit for them projectors Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 5:th-Jan-2015 It would be the best option Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 5:th-Jan-2015 tucpal Wrote:Most after market units are for LHD on the Astra j so can you show me your headlights I only know of one set that are for RHD also can you show me the light patten on a wall most after market units are not adjustable and they tend to use narrow beam projectors that look like two half circles and they won't give as good a light patten or a good cut off line as I get on the mono mini h1 projectors ha sorry mate did note realize it was you today some after market projectors give a narrow beam pattern looks like yours fall into this category if there is no up and down adjustment then it looks like it can not be adjusted i would need to see the lights on a wall at about 25 feet to get a better idea Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 11:th-Jan-2015 I have now gone down to the 4300k HID bulbs and again the light out put on the road has improved again i will be sticking with these from now on as i really like them they are also still really white and give much better vision. :cool Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Lewis6317 - 11:th-Jan-2015 wow Tucpal they do look amazing the output it awesome.... :P Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 6:th-Feb-2015 I was recommended these HID bulbs that have a metal plate for a better fit in the holder and a better quality bulb all round again i went for the 4300k they are much better that the standard plastic base ones and again the light out put has improved due to a better fit and better bulb so there well recommended http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271705429800?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&var=570545813969&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Rusty2009 - 6:th-Feb-2015 You must of spent £100's on sodding HID bulbs now mate. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 6:th-Feb-2015 ha ha but this is the first time i have used HIDS and i am learning all the time that's the third set and at only £10 each it is worth playing about to get them correct you live and learn and i want the best and i still have a smile on my face every time i go out at night the Projector HIDS are excellent. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - DNT - 7:th-Feb-2015 4300k is white? Or white with a hint of yellow? Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Rusty2009 - 7:th-Feb-2015 It does have a hint of yellow but when look at it front on and from pictures it looks white. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - DNT - 7:th-Feb-2015 Hmm. So 4300K is white with a hint of yellow 5000K is white. Just white 6000K is white with a hint of blue Right? Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Rusty2009 - 7:th-Feb-2015 Yes mate they say 4300K is the best I dropped down from 5000k to 4300k and think they are but I did get my lights adjusted when I did it as they where pointing down. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 7:th-Feb-2015 DNT Wrote:Hmm. So 5000k also has a slight hint of blue i would not go over 5000k as the vision on the road really does get worse the 4300k are the best for vision and they still look white and they have not got any hint of blue at all and match the LED DRL nicely the 4300k only really have a hint of yellow in the daylight at night you can not see any yellow at all. as you can tell it took me a couple of bulbs to realize the 4300k are the best 6000k look grate in the headlight nice diamond white with a blue tint but they are just no good for vision on the road at all. 5000k are pure white with a paler hint off blue but again the vision is sacrificed for nice looking headlight. 4300k are much better for vision on the road if not the best here and still look pure white at night but have a yellow tint in the daylight. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - DNT - 7:th-Feb-2015 It all makes sense now! Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 7:th-Feb-2015 i only upgraded to the last set of 4300k bulbs as they were better quality bulbs what ever you go for H1, H7 etc the metal plate HIDS are well better built and fit better than the standard plastic ones i was happy with the 4300k i just wanted the best bulb out there and i now have it believe me there like search lights and you have not been flashed once with the projector they work really well. Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Dewie93 - 7:th-Feb-2015 I'm using 6000k HID's at the moment, they're fantastic. I think I'll get a set of 4300s though, just to see the difference, plus my passenger side bulb only comes on some of the times, and the driver side one flickers Haha. Cheap kits for you! Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 8:th-Feb-2015 if you are are on the H1 bulbs like me get the ultra HIDS in the above link 4300k. honestly there the best quality wise and for vision. RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - DNT - 8:th-Apr-2015 Vauxhall uses PermaSeal to seal their headlight housings. Thats why its impossible to open the housing using the oven method. Many other manufacturers use Butyl sealant which is much easier to open using an oven. So the only way to open our headlights is by cutting them. Any issues since you retrofitted those projectors? Any moisture or haze in the housing? RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 8:th-Apr-2015 at first they were misting up with the HIDS like many others have found i just took some advise a drilled two small holes in the back of each cap and that solved the problem RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - DNT - 8:th-Apr-2015 I m really tempted to try this mod. But I need some help Looking at the picture you cut across the line where lens meet the plastic (red arrows), right? But there is no glue there. Glue is between the plastic that is under the lens and the lens (yellow area). Where should I cut? Also, don't you think it would be better to use this method? It seems much more easier to open and reseal, or is it a bad idea? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSD-eW6tEGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoX6y1wyyCQ RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 9:th-Apr-2015 cut on the red line as it will make bonding it back together alot easier as you will have a good surface to bond too the iron method is fine i would grab a cheep set on ebay then you can put the others back in at a later date RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - DNT - 8:th-Jul-2015 Ok guys, bought a cheap pair of chrome headlights off ebay... Cutting the lense was a pain in the !@$#. I used a multi purpose tool because I found using dremel was way more difficult. I finally managed to open it but I'm stuck. Do I have to completely remove the remaining chrome parts from the black case? This is where I've been so far: RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 8:th-Jul-2015 no that is about it you can paint the reflector if you wish then fit the projectors it may be best advised to fit the headlights back in and position the light pattern at night to get it correct before you seal it all back together RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - DNT - 11:th-Jul-2015 Ok, a quick update with pics. Here is the projector mounted with a different shroud called "iris". I like it better than the shrouds the projectors came with. Lot of trimming needed though as they were big... Also planning to use some 16x1w high power leds as daytime running lights in order to avoid bulb errors. Led driver is also needed... And now the noob question: How do you unclip the headlights???? Also is there any pinout diagram? RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 11:th-Jul-2015 pull the brown tab on the side out rusty will have a pin out and i like the projectors they look very good good idea on the led drl also Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Rusty2009 - 11:th-Jul-2015 I'll look the pinout out tomorrow. Just a thought but what about adding some angle eyes or a DRL/indicator strip? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 11:th-Jul-2015 Also make sure it is dust free before resealing and as clean as possible RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - DNT - 12:th-Jul-2015 I tried pulling the brown tab out but it was too tight and I thought if pulling harder it would brake. I ll give it a try today. I have thought about adding DRL/indicator strip, installation would be much easier instead of soldering tiny leds, but at daylight when the strip is on you can barely see it. Not too much light output. At night it is more visible though and i would say really beautiful but still not suitable for what it's meant to be, daytime running light... RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 12:th-Jul-2015 When you take the headlight out you will have more room to get the clip out RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Rusty2009 - 12:th-Jul-2015 A tip for you that I did when playing with Xenon lamps was to undo the top screws of the headlight which gave them abit play and allowed me make enough room for getting the tab pulled out. It doesn't pull all the way out. RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - DNT - 12:th-Jul-2015 Ok thank you guys. To correct myself I used mini H1 projectors (the same that you used) with ORBIT shrouds, not iris as i stated before RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - Rusty2009 - 12:th-Jul-2015 I'll grab you pic later just got to out I'll also link the Pinouts of the headlamps RE: Projector HID retro fit Astra j 5 door - tucpal - 12:th-Jul-2015 I stuck with the LED DRL as changing them is easier |