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RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - andy2174 - 11:th-May-2016

Last time on the rollers for me was back in 2004 ! much longer ago than I thought, used to be two places locally with dyno's, both closed their doors now

A lap of the TT would be awesome !


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - andy2174 - 18:th-May-2016

(11:th-May-2016, 06:50:01)marcus Wrote:
(10:th-May-2016, 19:58:49)andy2174 Wrote: Ha ha ha, the lure of more power eh ?

I did notice yesterday an interesting development for racechip, it now comes with a bluetooth option, so that you can adjust power settings on the fly, the downside is that its not available for the Astra J, not sure if it is because it cant be done or work in progress, quite interesting though

I think you would certainly notice a nice improvement if you did go to a maxchip

I had a 100mile round trip into the office today and enjoyed the drive, even 6th gear seems to have some decent pull sub 50mph

I cant say I want for anymore power, but, now it has me noticing that maybe the suspension should be fettled, followed by the brakes!
Haha. That maxchip did pop up on sale again on Amazon. (163hp)  I even added it to my basket,  just didn't pull the trigger. Thought I might end up with buyers remorse come the morning. so  do I really need it..... Or should I remap it........ decisions decisions. Cheers

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(10:th-May-2016, 21:04:38)tucpal Wrote: just remember chaps claimed bhp etc mean nothing without a dyno run and proof
and max figures will be at max settings so lets see your true results
we need a dyno day haha
No need to ruin this thread with the facts.  Haha, yes I do like a dyno run which reminds me I have not had my last 4 cars on a dyno. Used to be mandatory for me for checking mod effectiveness.

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I notice that maxchips have now revised their website information, currently the maxchip pro dual now sits at a maximum increase of 41bhp to 206bhp, reduced from 221bhp 

https://uk.maxchip.de/shop/chiptuning-maxchip-opel-astra-2-0-cdti-ecoflex-165-ps-121-kw/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Maxchip-Astra-ecoFlex-Diesel-Performance/dp/B00U00QBZ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463560289&sr=8-1&keywords=astra+2.0+cdti+chip+tuning

I wonder what that is all about then ? unless they have "downrated" everything to accomodate their new flashchip ?


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - marcus - 18:th-May-2016

(18:th-May-2016, 09:37:01)andy2174 Wrote:
(11:th-May-2016, 06:50:01)marcus Wrote:
(10:th-May-2016, 19:58:49)andy2174 Wrote: Ha ha ha, the lure of more power eh ?

I did notice yesterday an interesting development for racechip, it now comes with a bluetooth option, so that you can adjust power settings on the fly, the downside is that its not available for the Astra J, not sure if it is because it cant be done or work in progress, quite interesting though

I think you would certainly notice a nice improvement if you did go to a maxchip

I had a 100mile round trip into the office today and enjoyed the drive, even 6th gear seems to have some decent pull sub 50mph

I cant say I want for anymore power, but, now it has me noticing that maybe the suspension should be fettled, followed by the brakes!
Haha. That maxchip did pop up on sale again on Amazon. (163hp)  I even added it to my basket,  just didn't pull the trigger. Thought I might end up with buyers remorse come the morning. so  do I really need it..... Or should I remap it........ decisions decisions. Cheers

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(10:th-May-2016, 21:04:38)tucpal Wrote: just remember chaps claimed bhp etc mean nothing without a dyno run and proof
and max figures will be at max settings so lets see your true results
we need a dyno day haha
No need to ruin this thread with the facts.  Haha, yes I do like a dyno run which reminds me I have not had my last 4 cars on a dyno. Used to be mandatory for me for checking mod effectiveness.

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I notice that maxchips have now revised their website information, currently the maxchip pro dual now sits at a maximum increase of 41bhp to 206bhp, reduced from 221bhp 

https://uk.maxchip.de/shop/chiptuning-maxchip-opel-astra-2-0-cdti-ecoflex-165-ps-121-kw/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Maxchip-Astra-ecoFlex-Diesel-Performance/dp/B00U00QBZ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463560289&sr=8-1&keywords=astra+2.0+cdti+chip+tuning

I wonder what that is all about then ? unless they have "downrated" everything to accomodate their new flashchip ?
Haha. There is definitely some creative marketing going on to make the more expensive ones more appealing. Did your car feel slower this morning now that you know the power is reduced on the website ?

I haven't pursued the maxchip option as ultimately I will remap it when I get a chance.



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I bet that these 2 companies are connected in some way. Those tuning box designs are very similar and they probably share maps. Even the pricing is very similar.

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RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - bruce_19 - 18:th-May-2016

I had noticed the same when searching to see about my car that the Maxchip Premium and the flash where the same but now there is a difference.

Obviously its to try and give people more of a range to choose from and also so they can sell you the more expensive option at £200 more because I would rather have the box than a flash if it was give you the same figures.

I think I have found 3 or 4 companies now that have the exact same looking boxes claiming the exact same figures and the only difference I have found is 1 or2 offer a flash.

Funnily enough Irmscher are one of those companies only difference with their casing is they have it moulded with there logo and costs 4 times as much as the maxchip that will give you slightly higher figures.


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - andy2174 - 18:th-May-2016

Have you seen the price for AC Schnitzer tuning box upgrades to BMW's ?

http://shop.ac-schnitzer.co.uk/performance-upgrades-for-bmw-1-series-f20f21-petrol-from-3127-p.asp starting at £1750.09 ! I assume a huge part of that is a fee for providing a warrnaty for the bits BMW would no longer cover ?


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - marcus - 18:th-May-2016

(18:th-May-2016, 12:24:25)andy2174 Wrote: Have you seen the price for AC Schnitzer tuning box upgrades to BMW's ?

http://shop.ac-schnitzer.co.uk/performance-upgrades-for-bmw-1-series-f20f21-petrol-from-3127-p.asp starting at £1750.09 ! I assume a huge part of that is a fee for providing a warrnaty for the bits BMW would no longer cover ?
Mad money. That moulded case looks familiar... 1000 quid for the logo.

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RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - bruce_19 - 18:th-May-2016

I can get my Auto box flashed, the maxchip flash for the ecu and pedal box for less than that and have an extra 34hp on the 114i.

I would have enough change to buy they wife something so she wouldn't notice the above too lol.


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - marcus - 18:th-May-2016

Getting back to the reduced power output figures on the Racechip / maxchip websites, those figures may well have been with the tuning boxes turned up to the max. Perhaps they have decided to make them more conservative to match up to their recommended dial settings. At least they will keep the complaints at bay where people have disappointed dyno results with the tuning box ..... Who knows...

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RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - andy2174 - 18:th-May-2016

(18:th-May-2016, 12:58:18)marcus Wrote: Getting back to the reduced power output figures on the Racechip / maxchip websites,  those figures may well have been  with the tuning boxes turned up to the max.  Perhaps they have decided to make them more conservative to match up to their recommended dial settings. At least they will keep the complaints at bay where people have disappointed dyno results with the tuning box ..... Who knows...

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Totally agree with you, I am sure the figures are probably more like what you get straight out of the box, which makes sense, as I am sure the default setting is what most people go for

I have sent maxchip an email asking why they have two products on sale with the same name, but, with differing power figures, will be interested in their response


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - marcus - 18:th-May-2016

(18:th-May-2016, 13:21:57)andy2174 Wrote:
(18:th-May-2016, 12:58:18)marcus Wrote: Getting back to the reduced power output figures on the Racechip / maxchip websites,  those figures may well have been  with the tuning boxes turned up to the max.  Perhaps they have decided to make them more conservative to match up to their recommended dial settings. At least they will keep the complaints at bay where people have disappointed dyno results with the tuning box ..... Who knows...

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Totally agree with you, I am sure the figures are probably more like what you get straight out of the box, which makes sense, as I am sure the default setting is what most people go for

I have sent maxchip an email asking why they have two products on sale with the same name, but, with differing power figures, will be interested in their response
I got this gem back from racechip support when I asked them why the power output had changed.
***
Concerning the second point, no, we didn't change the software of the RaceChip.
We only adapt the values on our homepage.
***



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RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - andy2174 - 18:th-May-2016

That's a detailed response!

Typical sort of "guff" you would expect to receive in writing from any company though I am sure


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - andy2174 - 21:st-May-2016

Amusing update :-

Maxchip have changed their figures for the pro dual box yet again, gone up 4bhp (but down 14bhp on my box)

I sent them an email asking why they had two identically named products for sale with different "claimed" bhp, (Amazon and direct from them)

Their response to me is below

Hello there,
we have done some major changes on the Boxes , and so in our website you get different prices and different products like before.

When your Box is 3 Weeks olt, than it should be old stock, so it schould bring maximal +58BHP.


Amusing translation from German/English

My guess is that the figures they claim are nothing more than claims and the constant re-jigging appears to be for marketing purposes and product price point separation

I have my car booked in for a rolling road session on the 4th June, i'll be interested to see what the figures actually are


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - tucpal - 21:st-May-2016

there have been lots of talk about racechip and max chip doing this for quite some time on other forums ford etc
very over exaggerated figures sure the box works but as i have said you can not say you have a certain bhp figure till you test it


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - marcus - 21:st-May-2016

(21:st-May-2016, 16:27:27)andy2174 Wrote: Amusing update :-

Maxchip have changed their figures for the pro dual box yet again, gone up 4bhp (but down 14bhp on my box)

I sent them an email asking why they had two identically named products for sale with different "claimed" bhp, (Amazon and direct from them)

Their response to me is below

Hello there,
we have done some major changes on the Boxes , and so in our website you get different prices and different products like before.

When your Box is 3 Weeks olt, than it should be old stock, so it schould bring maximal +58BHP.


Amusing translation from German/English

My guess is that the figures they claim are nothing more than claims and the constant re-jigging appears to be for marketing purposes and product price point separation

I have my car booked in for a rolling road session on the 4th June, i'll be interested to see what the figures actually are
Yeah, wishy washy response indeed. In
fairness, i think the lot of them tuning companies are cut from the same cloth. I'd certainly be interested to see what you get when you get it on the dyno. Cheers




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RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - andy2174 - 13:th-Jun-2016

My Astra looking very sorry for itself, not been driven since my new 2nd car has arrived..........





Moved on the Corsa VXR pretty quickly, I just didnt really gel with it, I fancied something really different this time around, picked up a low mileage 2010 Smart 1.0 mhd Pulse, so far covered around 300miles in it and I find it quite good fun.  I am sure when I jump back in the Astra it will feel like a rocketship limo !


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - tucpal - 13:th-Jun-2016

I would not want a crash in that
but it is a very good city car


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - marcus - 13:th-Jun-2016

Haha. Might need to wear a kidney belt on dodgy roads. My FIL is on his 3rd one. I think he has the turbo diesel one now. Enjoy.

I've not driven the vxr corsa but have driven one or two of the lesser ones when my wife was looking to replace her jazz. It was truly awful. She ended up buying another jazz.

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RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - mrtc - 13:th-Jun-2016

The shell of a smart is a roll cage so u will be fine in a crash, I had a 2009 for two mhd for 2 years, keep an eye on the mhd belt as if it breaks it's new engine time, as it will overheat be the Lil red light shows.

I did 36k miles it was fine no issues, if it snows put a weight in boot, will be so much better, don't get anything from smart parts direct oh and go on www.evilution.co.uk for loads of information on how to do things to it

Speed humps are a nightmare due to larger rear wheels,


RE: Andy2174 Astra SRI 2.0cdti - GOKIWI - 14:th-Jun-2016

Cool little shopping trolley, maybe you could do this to it ?