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Negative camber - Printable Version

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Negative camber - Cameron UK - 22:nd-Jul-2014

As u all will know, my car is a cat d write off, the only problem with it is that it's got negative camber which can't be adjusted, it's not too bad, it's still JUST within parameters but I want to fix it.

What would I need to replace? Not bothered about cost, gonna be keeping the car anyway, it made my last set of tyres wear unevenly,

Here is an exaggerated picturE of what's happening, you can't notice it on the car.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52898&stc=1&d=1380830839

Negative camber - WhelanUK - 22:nd-Jul-2014

I'm not going to be any help sorry but the picture made me chuckle.

Negative camber - Cameron UK - 22:nd-Jul-2014

WhelanUK Wrote:I'm not going to be any help sorry but the picture made me chuckle.

Hahah, it's nothing like that lol

Negative camber - Kevin - 22:nd-Jul-2014

Where the strut bolts to the hub, get someone to elongate the upper hole. Then it should be a case of just loosening the bolts and altering the wheel angle while it is on the wheel aligner. When all set, just tighten the bolts.

Job done, in theory......

Negative camber - Cameron UK - 22:nd-Jul-2014

Kevin Wrote:Where the strut bolts to the hub, get someone to elongate the upper hole. Then it should be a case of just loosening the bolts and altering the wheel angle while it is on the wheel aligner. When all set, just tighten the bolts.

Job done, in theory......

Apparently the camber isn't adjustable, according to kwik fits machine! Can u get a pic of the bolts you mean??
http://workshop-manuals.com/vauxhall/astra-j/images/astra-j-8091.jpg

Also
http://workshop-manuals.com/vauxhall/astra-j/suspension/wheel_alignment/repair_instructions/front_camber_adjustment/

Tempted to buy this and see what happens,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281386871486
Thanks

Negative camber - Kevin - 23:rd-Jul-2014

Cameron UK Wrote:Apparently the camber isn't adjustable, according to kwik fits machine! Can u get a pic of the bolts you mean??
http://workshop-manuals.com/vauxhall/astra-j/images/astra-j-8091.jpg

Your correct, it aint adjustable, hence the reason to do what I mentioned. Then you now have adjustment.

The bolts are the 2 at the bottom of the strut. It would be the upper of the 2 bolt holes you make bigger. That way it will pivot on the bottom bolt and the upper one can 'float' around altering the camber.

Negative camber - tucpal - 23:rd-Jul-2014

my front tyres are also wearing on the inside ??

i have to agree with kevin i am not sure if it is just the way the astra j sits and it has negative camber

or in my case it just may be as i have stepped up from 17 to 19,s

have a look at this cam gives you an idea of what to do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sr6rc3RH6Q

but as kevin said you would need to make the top hole bigger

Negative camber - Cameron UK - 23:rd-Jul-2014

tucpal Wrote:my front tyres are also wearing on the inside ??

i have to agree with kevin i am not sure if it is just the way the astra j sits and it has negative camber

or in my case it just may be as i have stepped up from 17 to 19,s

have a look at this cam gives you an idea of what to do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sr6rc3RH6Q

but as kevin said you would need to make the top hole bigger

What would be causing it? The suspension?

Gonna get a set of these, rang them and they said they would work
https://www.lmfvauxhall.co.uk/Eibach-EZ-Cam-Front-Camber-Adjustment-Bolts.html

Negative camber - Cameron UK - 25:th-Jul-2014

Cameron UK Wrote:What would be causing it? The suspension?

Gonna get a set of these, rang them and they said they would work
https://www.lmfvauxhall.co.uk/Eibach-EZ-Cam-Front-Camber-Adjustment-Bolts.html

These worked perfectly, couldn't recommended them enough, easily fix until I find out what the issue is

Negative camber - tucpal - 25:th-Jul-2014

Well lets have a how too done on this

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Negative camber - Dicko - 25:th-Jul-2014

Keep an eye on them i had them on my nova and they keep coming loose

Negative camber - Cameron UK - 25:th-Jul-2014

Dicko Wrote:Keep an eye on them i had them on my nova and they keep coming loose

How often? Mine shouldn't be on too long, I've done them upto 65 lbs torque like it says

Negative camber - tucpal - 28:th-Jul-2014

here is a little how to clip for the camber bolts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrwZZbnjn4

and link to bolts

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231290058517?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

and a link to the gauge needed

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mechanic-Gauge-Tool-For-Car-Truck-Vehicle-Camber-Castor-Strut-Wheel-Alignment-/351119290673?pt=UK_Measuring_Tools_Levels&hash=item51c0573131

i will move this info over to mechanical how to as it is usefull info.

Negative camber - Cameron UK - 28:th-Jul-2014

Thanks tucpal, yes this works if you have too much positive OR negative camber

Negative camber - tucpal - 28:th-Jul-2014

i will get some when i get it lowered as the 19.s are already wearing out on the inside so i think this needs to be done asap

Negative camber - Cameron UK - 28:th-Jul-2014

tucpal Wrote:i will get some when i get it lowered as the 19.s are already wearing out on the inside so i think this needs to be done asap

Rather than a camber tool, if your just doing it once you can use a normal good quality spirit level

Negative camber - tucpal - 28:th-Jul-2014

maybe but i will buy the correct tool for the job
but i will get the cheapest of course
i wont skimp on the bolts though

Negative camber - Cameron UK - 28:th-Jul-2014

tucpal Wrote:maybe but i will buy the correct tool for the job
but i will get the cheapest of course
i wont skimp on the bolts though

Yeh I got the eibach ones, they are quite good actually, thaT tool isn't a bad price

Negative camber - tucpal - 28:th-Jul-2014

you may as well do it properly for that price and you can check when you have your wheel off for brake maintenance etc so you know they're true.

Negative camber - cornishtaz - 29:th-Jul-2014

Looks like a good idea but I still prefer to pay the extra and get the car 4 wheel laser tracked and camber adjustment after lowering

Negative camber - Cameron UK - 29:th-Jul-2014

cornishtaz Wrote:Looks like a good idea but I still prefer to pay the extra and get the car 4 wheel laser tracked and camber adjustment after lowering

Camber isn't adjustable on the 5 door that's the problem

Negative camber - tucpal - 7:th-Dec-2014

i will be getting a camber bolt kit
to make sure everything is in line after the car was lowered
but does anyone know what the factory spec camber setting is on the astra j ??

Negative camber - Rusty2009 - 7:th-Dec-2014

Wheel Alignment Specifications (5-Door Hatchback 68)

For descriptions see Description & Operation and Trim Height Inspection, refer to Trim Height Inspection .
Condition: Full tank, no passengers and placed on plane ground.

Front Suspension (68)

[TR]
[TD]For RPO, refer to RPO Code List[/TD]
[TD]Camber[/TD]
[TD]Cross Camber[/TD]
[TD]Caster[/TD]
[TD]Cross Caster[/TD]
[TD]Total Toe[/TD]
[TD]Steering Wheel Angle[/TD]
[TD]Toe-in variation with inner wheel deflection of 20Â°[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Standard[/TD]
[TD]−0Â°21' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]4Â°33' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°04â Â± 0Â°12'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 3Â°30'[/TD]
[TD]18Â°18'[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sport (XJ2)[/TD]
[TD]−0Â°30' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]4Â°33' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°04â Â± 0Â°12'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 3Â°30'[/TD]
[TD]18Â°12'[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chassis Protection Kit (XL4)[/TD]
[TD]−0Â°18' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]4Â°33' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°45'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°04â Â± 0Â°12'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 3Â°30'[/TD]
[TD]18Â°18'[/TD]
[/TR]

Rear Suspension (68)

[TR]
[TD]For RPO, refer to RPO Code List[/TD]
[TD]Camber[/TD]
[TD]Cross Camber[/TD]
[TD]Total Toe[/TD]
[TD]Thrust Angle[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Standard[/TD]
[TD]−1Â°24' Â± 0Â°30'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°36'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°06' Â± 0Â°24'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°18'[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sport (XJ2)[/TD]
[TD]−1Â°24' Â± 0Â°30'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°36'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°12' Â± 0Â°24'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°18'[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chassis Protection Kit (XL4)[/TD]
[TD]−1Â°24' Â± 0Â°30'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°36'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°06' Â± 0Â°24'[/TD]
[TD]0Â°00' Â± 0Â°18'[/TD]
[/TR]

That table has gone funny I will fix it later but here's a .PDF
http://www.vxoc.org.uk/Images/vxoc%20astra-j-gtc/Tech%20data/wheel.pdf
[url=http://www.vxoc.org.uk/Images/vxoc%20astra-j-gtc/Tech%20data/wheel.pdf][/url]

Negative camber - tucpal - 7:th-Dec-2014

cheers dude :cool

Negative camber - Rusty2009 - 8:th-Dec-2014

tucpal Wrote:cheers dude :cool

Your welcome table fixed